Commuter Policy / IAH Cheap Hotels
01-25-2023 | 01:25 AM
#21
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Page 2 and the holiday inn JFK has not been mentioned? $65 out the door with breakfast included
01-25-2023 | 12:58 PM
#22
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I see what you did there….. cherry pick the best items from other airlines and present them as if all of it together is now industry standard. Advice: The sooner you figure out that you are not supposed to stay at a regional, the better off you are.
Regarding the union. Most regionals have a more comfortable environment for the lifers. They are stuck there either by life choices or career mistakes. They can make a decent living, work a good schedule, and enjoy easier commutes by being able to move bases. I know lifers who used to work PHX in the winter and East Coast in the summer. Those are the pilots the union should focus on representing. Not the pilot who comes in for a year or two and is gone.
When I first started at Air Midwest, Larry Risley and JO used to take pilots who had a good track record and had been there for more than maybe 5 years to lunch. They would ask them where they would like to work next and then would call their contacts at those companies to help that pilot move on. Risley said, “you are costing me too much at this point and I need you to move on.” This example is not at all applicable today, because Pilot costs are no longer the biggest cost center in the business. However, the point is still valid. Go to the regional, get some time, move on to your next adventure. At no point in my life, has the move on part been easier. To get mired in the muck of envy of other contracts just delays your moving on. Instead of complaining, join a union committee, become a ground school instructor then sim instructor part time, become a safety committee member, etc. Do anything to enhance your chances of getting out earlier. Until then? Suck it up cupcake!
Now, would someone on here please let the OP know if there are cheap hotels or crash pads in IAH?
Regarding the union. Most regionals have a more comfortable environment for the lifers. They are stuck there either by life choices or career mistakes. They can make a decent living, work a good schedule, and enjoy easier commutes by being able to move bases. I know lifers who used to work PHX in the winter and East Coast in the summer. Those are the pilots the union should focus on representing. Not the pilot who comes in for a year or two and is gone.
When I first started at Air Midwest, Larry Risley and JO used to take pilots who had a good track record and had been there for more than maybe 5 years to lunch. They would ask them where they would like to work next and then would call their contacts at those companies to help that pilot move on. Risley said, “you are costing me too much at this point and I need you to move on.” This example is not at all applicable today, because Pilot costs are no longer the biggest cost center in the business. However, the point is still valid. Go to the regional, get some time, move on to your next adventure. At no point in my life, has the move on part been easier. To get mired in the muck of envy of other contracts just delays your moving on. Instead of complaining, join a union committee, become a ground school instructor then sim instructor part time, become a safety committee member, etc. Do anything to enhance your chances of getting out earlier. Until then? Suck it up cupcake!
Now, would someone on here please let the OP know if there are cheap hotels or crash pads in IAH?
Other airlines contract is what the MAG MEC should look up to. Just like the AAWO's introduced 90/hr first and all other airlines followed them.
Contract shouldn't just benifet lifers or senior people. It should benifet the ENTIRE pilot group, New or experienced. And Envoy/republics contract blows Mesa out of the water. Mesa needs QOL/commuting improvements.
As for the hotels, simply go on Google maps and type in "hotels" near the airport. A list will show up. Read the reviews. WATCH OUT FOR BEDBUGS. See if they of often mentioned in the reviews. Also see if cigarette smoke smell is mentioned often. Once at the hotel, inspect the matress, dresser, pillows, etc. For bedbugs.
Call each one and ask if
1. They have shuttle service to/from airport 24/7
2. What is the rate
3. Do they have a crew rate
01-26-2023 | 06:13 AM
#23
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So what you're saying is its okay for junior FOs/new hires/DEC/Junior CA to be on reserve, working 50-60 hours a week, and only getting paid for half those hours? That's borderline slavery.
Other airlines contract is what the MAG MEC should look up to. Just like the AAWO's introduced 90/hr first and all other airlines followed them.
Contract shouldn't just benifet lifers or senior people. It should benifet the ENTIRE pilot group, New or experienced. And Envoy/republics contract blows Mesa out of the water. Mesa needs QOL/commuting improvements.
Other airlines contract is what the MAG MEC should look up to. Just like the AAWO's introduced 90/hr first and all other airlines followed them.
Contract shouldn't just benifet lifers or senior people. It should benifet the ENTIRE pilot group, New or experienced. And Envoy/republics contract blows Mesa out of the water. Mesa needs QOL/commuting improvements.
Get in, suck it up and move on. I have never heard a pilot from their so called good regional, ever say they wish they were back there. They all suck and they will always suck when compared to your career airline.
01-26-2023 | 09:23 AM
#24
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From: pilot
The TownePlace Suites/Fairfield Inn on Interwood Pkway N. (which is a half-block off JFK) are very used to flight crews and have some very good crew rates - I know Mesa has used the TownePlace several times for crews.
The Sheraton on JFK is nicer but more expensive - advantages are that it has an in-house bar and restaurant.
Also a DoubleTree across JFK from the Sheraton. I've stayed at all of these and can vouch for them being decent.
The Red Roof Inn is probably the cheapest of all of them. I haven't stayed there but it doesn't look awful, and it's clustered with the other stuff. There's Shell Station nearby on the same side of the road with a remarkably surprising beer selection.
All of these are walking distance to several decent if unimaginative places to eat, one bar (Hoot County) and super-close to the airport. The Towneplace, Fairfield, Sheraton and DoubleTree all have shuttle service, but I don't know about the Red Roof. Uber is very easy and cheap, too.
Hope this helps.
The Sheraton on JFK is nicer but more expensive - advantages are that it has an in-house bar and restaurant.
Also a DoubleTree across JFK from the Sheraton. I've stayed at all of these and can vouch for them being decent.
The Red Roof Inn is probably the cheapest of all of them. I haven't stayed there but it doesn't look awful, and it's clustered with the other stuff. There's Shell Station nearby on the same side of the road with a remarkably surprising beer selection.
All of these are walking distance to several decent if unimaginative places to eat, one bar (Hoot County) and super-close to the airport. The Towneplace, Fairfield, Sheraton and DoubleTree all have shuttle service, but I don't know about the Red Roof. Uber is very easy and cheap, too.
Hope this helps.
03-20-2023 | 11:21 AM
#26
New Hire
Joined: May 2021
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Holiday Inn IAH
15222 John F Kennedy Blvd,
Houston, TX 77032
$67/night crew rate as of 1 week ago.
[MOD EDIT] It's clean, staff is nice, shuttle is reliable, and free breakfast. Hard to beat.
15222 John F Kennedy Blvd,
Houston, TX 77032
$67/night crew rate as of 1 week ago.
[MOD EDIT] It's clean, staff is nice, shuttle is reliable, and free breakfast. Hard to beat.
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05-22-2023 | 09:59 PM
#27
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Anyone have an idea what the reserve time on the ERJ is in IAH? I have a July 26th date. I live in DFW so hoping to get IAH. Commuting doesn’t sound great even though it’s only an hour flight. Also does anyone have experience with commuting back home every night/occasionally while on reserve? Seems like it may be possible if the shifts line up.
thanks
thanks
05-23-2023 | 04:35 PM
#28
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Anyone have an idea what the reserve time on the ERJ is in IAH? I have a July 26th date. I live in DFW so hoping to get IAH. Commuting doesn’t sound great even though it’s only an hour flight. Also does anyone have experience with commuting back home every night/occasionally while on reserve? Seems like it may be possible if the shifts line up.
thanks
thanks
That commute is not just an hour. Its actually 1 hour and 30 mins with taxi time. That dosnt include the drive to the airport, and the time to get ready to get dressed and etc. Commuting is highly not preferable ESPECIALLY on reserve. If you hold a line, sure. But you will be on reserve for a very long time, and is not recommended at all.
Also, god forbid you get morning reserve with a super early show time. You wont find flights. You'd have to commute on your day off, on the day prior. And pay for a hotel out of your own pocket everyday.
Heck, even if you get noon reserve, you may not go back home at night since there may not be any flights.
In conclusion, put the shiny jet syndrome on the side, switch to he CRJ, have way less stress on your mind, and be based in DFW.
05-23-2023 | 06:25 PM
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Switch to the CRJ and pick DFW as your base. Why commute if you already live in base?
That commute is not just an hour. Its actually 1 hour and 30 mins with taxi time. That dosnt include the drive to the airport, and the time to get ready to get dressed and etc. Commuting is highly not preferable ESPECIALLY on reserve. If you hold a line, sure. But you will be on reserve for a very long time, and is not recommended at all.
Also, god forbid you get morning reserve with a super early show time. You wont find flights. You'd have to commute on your day off, on the day prior. And pay for a hotel out of your own pocket everyday.
Heck, even if you get noon reserve, you may not go back home at night since there may not be any flights.
In conclusion, put the shiny jet syndrome on the side, switch to he CRJ, have way less stress on your mind, and be based in DFW.
That commute is not just an hour. Its actually 1 hour and 30 mins with taxi time. That dosnt include the drive to the airport, and the time to get ready to get dressed and etc. Commuting is highly not preferable ESPECIALLY on reserve. If you hold a line, sure. But you will be on reserve for a very long time, and is not recommended at all.
Also, god forbid you get morning reserve with a super early show time. You wont find flights. You'd have to commute on your day off, on the day prior. And pay for a hotel out of your own pocket everyday.
Heck, even if you get noon reserve, you may not go back home at night since there may not be any flights.
In conclusion, put the shiny jet syndrome on the side, switch to he CRJ, have way less stress on your mind, and be based in DFW.
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