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Quote: I have enough common courtesy to remain with an employer for at least a year after being hired/trained.

DUDE!
Unless there is a training contract involved, I do not understand the point in this. It will not get Bonus Points for anybody, and in no way would any company reciprocate this sentiment if/when it came time for separation. But that's just me.
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Quote: The answer is because upgrading at a regional and getting TPIC is the fastest way to the legacies.

Know your stuff and you won't bust. It's that easy.

Using that logic. Why would someone leave and potentially bust on a new type ride somewhere else, then potentially be unhirable?
That was pre-Covid. Now the fastest way is to finish training and IOE, and have been applying to the legacies upon starting line straining. If you do it right you’ll punch out right after you consolidate. I’ve seen it even sooner.

Why? Because that type somewhere else is at their forever job….. times have changed.
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Quote: Unlike the younger instant gratification generation, I have enough common courtesy to remain with an employer for at least a year after being hired/trained.

DUDE!
Would that all employers extended such “common courtesy” to us…seniority is everything in this business, and it IS a business. Your employer is not your neighbor or your friend, it’s a company that exists to make money and deliver value to its owners, of which we pilots are (generally) not. Employees should act in their own economic self-interest. Give an employee a compelling reason to stay and they will. But if an opportunity with better long-term prospects, stability, QOL or whatever works for one arises, one should absolutely take it without hesitation. And we geezers are just as instantly gratified as young people today, humans haven’t evolved in 20 years…
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Quote: Unlike the younger instant gratification generation, I have enough common courtesy to remain with an employer for at least a year after being hired/trained.

DUDE!
I wouldn't so much call it instant gratification, more like getting the seat you want when the gettings good. I've known pilots who have left to JetBlue, spirit, and frontier just to use them to get the final job at a legacy right after completing IOE.

If your dream was to work at united or delta would you spend a year at a regional and then another year at an LLC or cargo or would you try like hell to get there as soon as possible?
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Quote: I wouldn't so much call it instant gratification, more like getting the seat you want when the gettings good. I've known pilots who have left to JetBlue, spirit, and frontier just to use them to get the final job at a legacy right after completing IOE.

If your dream was to work at united or delta would you spend a year at a regional and then another year at an LLC or cargo or would you try like hell to get there as soon as possible?

Latest Rumor I’m hearing is JO came to the training department and told them if we don’t get captains fast enough Mesa will go under in a year. Can anyone confirm this?
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Quote: Latest Rumor I’m hearing is JO came to the training department and told them if we don’t get captains fast enough Mesa will go under in a year. Can anyone confirm this?
Smells like BS
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Quote: Latest Rumor I’m hearing is JO came to the training department and told them if we don’t get captains fast enough Mesa will go under in a year. Can anyone confirm this?
Two things: A Year is an eternity in the airline world. A lot can and will happen before the next 2-months is up.

Secondly: United has a vested interest both financially and operationally in making sure Mesa weathers the current market conditions. Mesa isn't going anywhere.

On a side note: How is the attrition rate for Captains? Are people sticking around for the mandatory 2-year aviate flow? Or are they bouncing before?
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Secondly: United has a vested interest both financially and operationally in making sure Mesa weathers the current market conditions. Mesa isn't going anywhere.
United had a vested interest in ExpressJet too. Don’t put too much stock in where they spend money.

People have been saying that Mesa is shutting the doors for as long as I can remember, but they never do. JO is like a cockroach that will survive a nuclear holocaust. I’d agree that Mesa isn’t going anywhere, but don’t put too much faith in United propping any regional up.
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Quote: Two things: A Year is an eternity in the airline world. A lot can and will happen before the next 2-months is up.

Secondly: United has a vested interest both financially and operationally in making sure Mesa weathers the current market conditions. Mesa isn't going anywhere.

On a side note: How is the attrition rate for Captains? Are people sticking around for the mandatory 2-year aviate flow? Or are they bouncing before?
Everyone at Xjet said the same thing. Trust me (ex Jet Link’r)
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There has been rumors mesa will go under literally every few months for the past two decades. It won't happen. I swear I can count at least 10 of these rumors in recent memory. Covid, AA ending contract with Mesa, Mesa losing 30 million bucks at one point, Mesa stock crashing, Mesa not wanting to up pilot pay, etc.

"BuT tHiS tImE iT wIlL ReAlLy HaPpEn!! 111!1!"

No it won't, quit it. At this point anyone who says Mesa will fold is a joke. Air Wisconsin or commutair is WAy more likely to shut down before Mesa ever will.

A more believable rumor would be United wanting to buy Mesa and merge them together. This is a fresh new rumor that only emerged in the past year or two and is way more likely to happen than Mesa closing it's books.
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