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Old 06-28-2023, 08:22 AM
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Less and less cause of no CA. Trips have been either canceled or been pulled off and give to somebody else.
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Old 06-28-2023, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by crjflyer0023 View Post
looks like Mesa is now forcing CRJ FO's to upgrade into the EJET. Some questions

1 - Is it possible to bid for 737 CA upgrade from CRJ FO? or is it very senior.

2 - How is pass rates looking for CRJ FOs who are upgrading straight to the EJET?
So does anyone have an actual answer to this questions
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Old 06-28-2023, 08:58 AM
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Are they getting you through OE alright? or are there delays in OE, I'd be SHOCKED if mesa didn't have delays anywhere.

And how's the flying right now? I know about 6 months back, no body was really flying at all.
I dont remember, maybe a month wait for IOE... but that was like over a year back. Maybe things changed.

And no, as a new hire, you will absolutely not fly. You will get your first 100 hours fast because of consolidation. But, after that, it will slow to a snail's pace.

You will sit airport ready reserve 5-6 days in the week back to back, 8-10 hours a day. You might go a month without flying at all. You might go a month flying a whopping 3 hours.

Once you hold a line, you will fly 80-100 hours a month. However, that will take a year or longer. We have people on property for a year now who dont hold lines yet. As more FO's upgrade, this time will be shorter.

At the same time, we have people who are going to Spirit, Frontier, Jetblue, ACMI right out of IOE.

If you want to be patient, it will pay off and you will fly a sh1t ton and make good money. If you dont have the patience, you can delay your flying and time building by 3-4 months, learn a whole new jet, take a whole new checkride and oral, wait for ioe all over again, take a big first-year pay cut, and be thrown to the bottom of the seniority list again at a new airline.
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Old 06-28-2023, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by crjflyer0023 View Post
I dont remember, maybe a month wait for IOE... but that was like over a year back. Maybe things changed.

And no, as a new hire, you will absolutely not fly. You will get your first 100 hours fast because of consolidation. But, after that, it will slow to a snail's pace.

You will sit airport ready reserve 5-6 days in the week back to back, 8-10 hours a day. You might go a month without flying at all. You might go a month flying a whopping 3 hours.

Once you hold a line, you will fly 80-100 hours a month. However, that will take a year or longer. We have people on property for a year now who dont hold lines yet. As more FO's upgrade, this time will be shorter.

At the same time, we have people who are going to Spirit, Frontier, Jetblue, ACMI right out of IOE.

If you want to be patient, it will pay off and you will fly a sh1t ton and make good money. If you dont have the patience, you can delay your flying and time building by 3-4 months, learn a whole new jet, take a whole new checkride and oral, wait for ioe all over again, take a big first-year pay cut, and be thrown to the bottom of the seniority list again at a new airline.
Seriously? They are on property for only a few months.........and then bailing?
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Old 06-28-2023, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cantbreakout View Post
What's the latest with DFW going away on the AA side? I have a ERJ class date in August (cant start till then cause of my age) and am hoping for IAH. But....Girlfriend lives in Dallas. Wondering if I could/should switch to the CRJ and maybe get Dallas

Also, are there any training delays on the ERJ side of things?

Occasionally an FO will get DFW but not in training. I wouldn't count on anything being even close to permanent in any base.
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Old 06-28-2023, 04:02 PM
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Seriously? They are on property for only a few months.........and then bailing?
This is absolutely a thing. You have shown you can make it through a 121 program - you can get hired at any ULCC or cargo company at that point.
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Old 06-28-2023, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by crjflyer0023 View Post
So does anyone have an actual answer to this questions
FO to CA on 737 - possible to bid yes. Possible to get - No.

CRJ FO to ERJ CA - nobody has done it in recent memory (At least a year or more) first one coming up. Can't get a pass rate on zero.
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Old 06-28-2023, 04:57 PM
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Seriously? They are on property for only a few months.........and then bailing?

Dude…have you been living under a rock the last year? How do you not know this is and has been a thing for quite some time?
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Old 06-28-2023, 04:58 PM
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Why would anyone want to fly for Mesa?

I mean isn’t that the saying in aviation “could be worse, could be Mesa”
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by golfandflows View Post
Dude…have you been living under a rock the last year? How do you not know this is and has been a thing for quite some time?
Unlike the younger instant gratification generation, I have enough common courtesy to remain with an employer for at least a year after being hired/trained.

DUDE!
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