....because the judge ruled in our favor and blocked Delta from terminating our Freedom contract. As of noon central time. Details to follow.

 

Do you think thats a good thing? Are you happy that DAL can't try to get rid of the worst regional it has? Do you have JO pride?

 

1)Yes, it's a good thing for my Freedom buddies. They will have jobs for a little while longer.

2)Something tells me there is more to the story than "bad performance numbers," otherwise the judge would have ruled in Delta's favor.

3)No, I hate the man.

Don't you have anything better to do?

 

The question is now, will Delta go to trial, or just pay for an early termination of the contract?

 

They're going take it out on us!

 

From AP:

A spokeswoman for Atlanta-based Delta said the airline was disappointed with U.S. District Judge Clarence Cooper's ruling approving an injunction, and it planned to appeal.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080529/mesa_...elta.html?.v=1

 

Since you made the statement . . .

Please provide any and all evidence that Mesa Air Group is "the worst regional" Delta has.

Not opinion, but real evidence that can be quantified and qualified, objectively showing that Mesa Air Group is not only below average, but "the worst" of all of Delta's regionals. You could start by even telling us what criteria you are using to judge all of these carriers: on-time performance, revenue generation for mother Delta, brake wear, smiles observed on mechanic's faces as they are doused in hydraulic fluid on odd #'d Thursdays after consuming poultry, what?

If you don't have the data (considering you've made about 350 posts over the last 16 months and not once posted any objective data, I'm guessing you can't substantiate your claims), then please reconsider future pontifications on the subject.

"The crap job you guys do"? Here we go again. Please post data showing that those who read your comments (we can assume that "you guys" means pilots, since this forum is populated almost exclusively by pilots) are performing in a way that should be described as "crap". Since pilots only fly planes, I would like to see data comparing the airmanship and command skills (in the case of CA's) of the pilots of Freedom Airlines compared to that of other Delta Connection carriers - flight data recorder stuff is just about the only thing I can think of that would show airmanship, and I'm at a loss to see how command authority would be show, but I'm all ears.

The general consensus of JO is agreed upon, but some of the comments here appear very much like their authors are wishing ill-will upon their fellow pilots. Please separate the wheat from the chafe, the well-being of your fellow aviators from that of the actions of their management.

 

When I first responded to the thread labeled "Mesa Wins" yesterday asking for substantiating evidence (aka Press Release/Media Coverage) one of the moderators chimed in that MESA stock was up significantly (more than a dime) and that this evidenced something happened.

I would argue similar evidence is present here in regards to public opinion. When consumer satisfaction is rated according to the DOT Freedom is not reported.

When passengers buy tickets these tickets say "DELTA" not Freedom. When passengers complain they list "DELTA flight XXXX" not "Freedom flight XXXX" on their comment cards. It would be nice to always be incognito, but when you get down to it, Delta has internal tracks of what is going on and what level of service is provided. They would not make that public because of the negative publicity. They just have to overcompensate for the mistakes of their DCI portfolio.

AND upon further investigation MESA Airline (I think just Air Midwest DBA "Mesa Airlines") was evaluated and didn't do so hot in 2007(not to say everyone else did that much better): http://eventplanning.about.com/gi/dy...ts/2007aqr.pdf

 

Funny enough, they out ranked Comair, American Eagle and ASA. hmmm?

 

1) I doubt freedom will continue to operate for long. DAL doesn't want to pay the operating costs, and JO just wants his money. They will probably park the airplanes, and DAL will pay JO enough to cover his fixed costs (mortgages) and a profit margin, but save on fuel, crew payroll, etc.

They might do a short-term deal pending the outcome of the lawsuit. Then if MAG wins, they would probably just extend the deal for the duration of the contract. If DAL wins, they cut off JO immediately.

My gut feeling is that DAL does not make gross errors in strategic legal matters. I suspect that they know what they are doing, and that JO and co. simply had no other choice but to throw a hail mary.


2) An injunction is easy to get pending further hearings. It is harder to sustain on appeal, and has no bearing whatsoever on the final outcome of the lawsuit. Of course JO sued...it was likely his only hope of staying out of BK in the short term (and employed).

3) Glad to hear it.