MESA won an injunction, not the trial - big difference. In other words fella's - The Jury's still out on this one.

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Freedom Airlines doesn't report DOT #'s (Freedom doesn't meet the minimum revenue #'s to trigger required reporting). It's unlikely any author on this board knows where Freedom stands (though some post as if they do). If someone posts as if they know the #'s, than I'm asking them to speak up and substantiate their claims.

I agree, Delta knows which DCI carrier they consider 'the worst'. However, nobody on this board speaks on behalf of Delta or has access to Delta's internal #'s that I know of - and if they do, they likely wouldn't author posts on a message board divulging privileged info.

Mesa Airlines operates flying for US Airways Express and United Express. They don't operate flying for Delta. AirMidwest, like Freedom, doesn't report #'s to the DOT. AirMidwest is also ceasing to exist as a company in the near future. And as "STILL GROUNDED" pointed out, Mesa Airline's #'s are better than at least 2 DCI carriers. If we assume Freedom operates similarly to Mesa (most pilots who work @ Mesa Air Group say that Freedom Airlines is the operation that their management cares most about, and b/c of this attention they feel it runs the best - though this is just individual opinion, and therefore not fact), then Freedom is likely not "the worst" DCI carrier. That Delta is trying to get rid of them does offer ancillary evidence that Freedom may not be the top performing carrier, but it should also be noted Delta seeks only to eliminate Freedom's 50 seat ERJ flying, not the CRJ-705 flying Freedom does for Delta. If Freedom's operation is so undesirable, why not try to get rid of ALL of their DCI flying?

What's important to me to get across on this board is that the actions that make Freedom desirable or undesirable to Delta have very little to do with the individual contributions of the pilots who operate Freedom's flights. One can hope for the best for the pilots (or fellow brothers and sisters) without also supporting the management team or the company.

I agree with 'Scoop'. The trial is where the real action is. Furthermore, if it is true that an injunction was issued based upon Freedom's (and Mesa Air Group's) financial solvency, rather on the alleged breach of the terms of the contract enter into between Delta and Freedom, Delta may very well win @ the appellate level on the merits of the injunction.

 

Very well put Sniper.

Delta substantiated the cancellation due to freedom's "performance issues" as evidenced by the multitude of Press Releases related to the injunctions.

I guess we will find out more details as to the extent of these issue as the case progresses.

Of course we as pilots only have so much control of any performance issues.

I hope Mesa Pilots understand they really aren't the cause of the problem so much as they are somewhat indirectly involved. We as pilots only have so much control over a situation. And as proven with GO!! there will be a scapegoat other than JO if everything unravels.

 

The CRJ9 flying that freedom does is under a different contract, their ERJ flying is separate from their CRJ stuff.

Whether that's "next" is left to be seen.

 

Since those 900's are owned by DAL, mesa had better be on their best behavior. DAL would be reluctant to fire a 900 operator who owns their own planes because those are a hot commodity (even today), and they would quickly end up flying for a competitor. But mesa is easy to get rid of (gotta give DAL some credit for setting it up that way in the first place).

 

Word out of MEM a few times was that Pinnacle or Comair will get those 900's when they completely kick Freedom out in 4 years... They want to keep them out of JFK so my bet would be Comair.

 

yes im sure that DL hates mesa in JFK with there Block or Block pay

 

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