RichieAshburn

I don't follow our DCI carriers performance too closely, but I think since Skywest, Inc took over, ASA's performance has been close to the top.

About today, look for the injunction to be upheld. Mesa will once again dodge a bullet, until this goes to trial. Once the trial starts, anything can happen. Just because the injunction went Mesa's way doesn't mean the trial will. Stay tuned, cause Delta wants Mesa out.

hyperboy

I would cut the most expensive. Period! In this day thats all they care about right? Prove me wrong. You think the big wigs care about service? No they care about the BEANS, thats it. I know everyone thinks they care about the service. Prove me wrong. I have never seen these big wigs on my flights. They (Delta) are bullying all the kids on the block (regionals) to see who wont pick a fight. JFK is a wreck and the numbers are bad for all that fly there.

RichieAshburn

Seems a lot of you just regurgitate old info you've been taught, forgetting this is a fluid industry. If you're talking about a few years ago, then you are correct. However, in this cyclical business, things change very quickly. I'll prove you wrong...

When DAL entered into this contract(with a completely different DAL management team) they were looking for the cheapest feed due to bankruptcy restructuring. As we all know, Mesa fits that description very well.

As DAL began its post bankruptcy recovery, several things happened. Just to name a few of the most obvious:

1) A new management team with a different philosophy took over.
2) Merger with NWA that resulted in too many regionals.
3) A plan to cut regionals based on performance.
4) Redeploy mainline aircraft to meet demand on routes.
5) A new mainline pilot mentality.
6) DAL already cutting 100+ regional aircraft. As a result, you are seeing(unfortunately) furloughs at DCI carriers.
7) A COMMITMENT on improving performance AND service at mainline and regionals.


These are just a few factors that will contribute to the future of regional feed.

Now, one example that proves you wrong. DAL wanted to cancel Pinnacles contract because of performance. After a small battle was resolved, Pinnacle kept their flying. The new DAL management knows Mesa was used to get cheap lift in a time when DAL needed it. We don't need, nor do we want cheap lift anymore. That is why DAL is going to great lengths to cancel the Mesa contract, something you didn't see with Pinnacle.

hyperboy

First of all if thats what you believe then thats cool. Although you did not PROVE anything. Where are the numbers? I want to see the numbers. All of the numbers because that it is where the truth lies right? It all sounds good to say...Now lets see it?!

The Chow

Instead of all this legaleze that we smart pilots are throwing around what about an MMA.

Delta and Mesa could do it Affliction style and get Big John to referee.

RichieAshburn

What are you talking about? Pinnacle went through a similar threat. DAL mainly used that threat as leverage. Now as far as Mesa, DAL wants them out. This is not a leverage issue, it's a quality control issue. Mesa does not meet the quality DAL is looking for, period. The length that DAL is going to, to get rid of Mesa, PROVES they want quality not cheap lift. You don't receive all the memo's that we get on a daily basis, DAL is improving quality at all level. The end result will be an industry leading airline with more mainline flights, more amenities, better service and first class employees.

As for your numbers, I'm not looking up Mesa's performance numbers. I just don't care. However, DAL does. The judge will decide if DAL is correct.

bradeku1008

what time is the hearing?

sulkair

All that is great, and I'll take your word for it that it is true, but a contract is a contract. Regardless of who was in charge at DAL or the reasons why they did it... DAL entered into an agreement with MESA and they cannot just back out because it doesn't serve their vision anymore. That is why this is in court, and you're right, the judge will have to decide. And you're also right: Mesa's numbers were not doctored... but Mesa was asked to cancel many flights by Delta to make room for larger equipment out of JFK. These cancellation requests were agreed upon by Mesa with the stipulation that it would not count against their completion factor. Remove the cancellations that were requested by DAL and Mesa has met all their numbers.

Pilotguy143

well, its 12:10pm EST. Does anyone know when this shindig started? Any idea where we can find the result published?

arizonastpilot

Im sure it will be on here as soon as a decision is reached......and there will be tons of bashing to follow win or loss.