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10-30-2014 | 09:36 AM
#3861
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From: 175 Left
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Originally Posted by skillett
That's what I'm hoping. I knew about this a while back but thought it was eventually lost because I have heard nothing. Anyway I commute out of KDFW, and the commute to KIAH is atrocious. I'm having to make the 4.5 hour pilgrimage on the ground about 90 percent of the time. (NW FTW) With the horrible commute I have considered trying to bid back to the CRJ. But I would be giving up a lot of seniority and flying an airplane that I enjoy.
Hopefully all of the remaining 130 E175s go to Envoy.
Originally Posted by skillett
That's what I'm hoping. I knew about this a while back but thought it was eventually lost because I have heard nothing. Anyway I commute out of KDFW, and the commute to KIAH is atrocious. I'm having to make the 4.5 hour pilgrimage on the ground about 90 percent of the time. (NW FTW) With the horrible commute I have considered trying to bid back to the CRJ. But I would be giving up a lot of seniority and flying an airplane that I enjoy.
Hopefully all of the remaining 130 E175s go to Envoy.
Anyone but Brown Streak or Republic.
10-30-2014 | 09:56 AM
#3865
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Yes, both make more money then Mesa. XJT took concessions too but they are still leaps and bounds better than Mesa. Hopefully you guys get huge gains and become the highest paid group soon, but I think the Raiders have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl.
10-30-2014 | 10:10 AM
#3866
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Yeah really tired of the Mesa bashing. Let's face it, it's a dog eat dog world. Yeah Mesa is getting more flying because of low labor cost. Envoy deserves these aircraft but mainline management doesn't give a squat. They want cheap feed. So blame your mainline CEO's and CFO's, not Mesa. If you shop at Walmart where 90 percent of the products are made overseas your part of the problem. If you own a TV, microwave or refrigerator, there is a 99 percent chance it's made or manufactured overseas. This costs Americans jobs and drives pay down. So don't be a hypocrite.
10-30-2014 | 10:11 AM
#3867
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Originally Posted by prior121
Guys who took concessions or guys with a worse contract than Mesa? #noCNXLpay
hmmmmm
Yes, both make more money then Mesa. XJT took concessions too but they are still leaps and bounds better than Mesa. Hopefully you guys get huge gains and become the highest paid group soon, but I think the Raiders have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl.
Originally Posted by prior121
Guys who took concessions or guys with a worse contract than Mesa? #noCNXLpay
hmmmmm
Yes, both make more money then Mesa. XJT took concessions too but they are still leaps and bounds better than Mesa. Hopefully you guys get huge gains and become the highest paid group soon, but I think the Raiders have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl.
Wrong, I make more money here than i did at RAH. Check your facts bruh.
10-30-2014 | 10:21 AM
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You are describing the topic in a micro point of view. I have been on negotiating committees where my only job was to compare average captain and FO total compensation per airplane at each regional. Average RAH total compensation (including medical, 401k, sick time, etc), even with cancellation pay, was greater than Mesa. Just because you personally make more for whatever reason (living in base, getting off reserve faster) does not make the contract more expensive per pilot. Mesa is the lowest out of everybody, Gojet was second and RAH third. This was done just a few years ago and no contracts have changed since then with any of the bottom three. The E175s nor any CR7s are coming to Mesa for AAG (they want as much flying done in house as possible) but keep waiting for that big announcement soon.
10-30-2014 | 10:23 AM
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Yeah really tired of the Mesa bashing. Let's face it, it's a dog eat dog world. Yeah Mesa is getting more flying because of low labor cost. Envoy deserves these aircraft but mainline management doesn't give a squat. They want cheap feed. So blame your mainline CEO's and CFO's, not Mesa. If you shop at Walmart where 90 percent of the products are made overseas your part of the problem. If you own a TV, microwave or refrigerator, there is a 99 percent chance it's made or manufactured overseas. This costs Americans jobs and drives pay down. So don't be a hypocrite.
10-30-2014 | 10:30 AM
#3870
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As long as people are walking through those doors to fly for Mesa, why should they? But I would much rather be here with movement than stagnated in the right seat. No, thank you, been there done that. You can go to XJT, Envoy and Skywest for the honor of working for a company with a superior contract. A contract that is inferior compared to mainline. I'm sorry, but sitting in the right seat of any regional airline sucks when you have the skill and experience to be in the left.
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