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Old 11-01-2013 | 02:43 PM
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New hire class starts in April, CA's only in January. As of right now it will be ONLY newhires going into the 175 as FO's

Next class date I am aware of is Dec 5th. class size still TBD

Anyone know what the hotel/pay is like for training?
Old 11-01-2013 | 06:52 PM
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What base will the E-Jets be at? IAD or ORD? Or are they opening up another base for the 175s.
Old 11-01-2013 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingsaluki1
As of right now it will be ONLY newhires going into the 175 as FO
Please cite your source.
Old 11-01-2013 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CrippleHawk
What base will the E-Jets be at? IAD or ORD? Or are they opening up another base for the 175s.
There has yet to be an official announcement. Houston is the strongest rumor. But I've heard everything else between San Fran and Newark.
Old 11-01-2013 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
There has yet to be an official announcement. Houston is the strongest rumor. But I've heard everything else between San Fran and Newark.
I heard ord/iah
Old 11-01-2013 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Please cite your source.
The contract. FO's cannot change equipment unless upgrading. Captains cannot change equipment unless pay raise. This is the interesting part. All captains on reserve or vacation are paid 50 seat pay. (We still have 3 50 seaters in Hawaii). Union has group grievance pending. So, does management settle grievance to prevent training costs, or maintain 50 seat pay and let captains go wild bidding over to new plane? Still waiting on that and where the planes will be at.
Old 11-02-2013 | 09:10 AM
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It is known that Mesa is a really "bad place to work". Can someone elaborate on why? What is so bad about this place as compared to other regionals contract wise? The pay is low, but it's low everywhere else. I am referring to everything else...
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Old 11-02-2013 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NightHawk
The contract. FO's cannot change equipment unless upgrading. Captains cannot change equipment unless pay raise. This is the interesting part. All captains on reserve or vacation are paid 50 seat pay. (We still have 3 50 seaters in Hawaii). Union has group grievance pending. So, does management settle grievance to prevent training costs, or maintain 50 seat pay and let captains go wild bidding over to new plane? Still waiting on that and where the planes will be at.
Yes, this is an interesting dilemma for them - but I doubt seriously it keeps them up at night. They can just throw up a fence regardless. They're not afraid of another grievance if it saves them big-time on up-front costs. They'll work it out later for pennies on the dollar.

With the 900 rates now effectively gutted to equal 700 rates, there will be every reason for CRJ commuters to move to the 175s as they will achieve a pay raise (76 seat pay on reserve & vacation.) I can't see the company letting that happen - it would just be massively expensive.

Hopefully they just get rid of this ridiculous 50 seat base pay issue.
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Originally Posted by BaronRouge380
It is known that Mesa is a really "bad place to work". Can someone elaborate on why? What is so bad about this place as compared to other regionals contract wise? The pay is low, but it's low everywhere else. I am referring to everything else...
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Baron - it isn't that bad anymore. Honestly, there are many issues, some of them are glaring. But I think a lot of what you're referring to comes from several years back. We've made some vast improvements since those days. I've been here over 10 now - so I have a little perspective. I'm sure many others on here will have me drawn & quartered for saying this - but I believe it to be true. We can get into specifics if you like - but right now me wife says breakfast is ready!!!
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Originally Posted by sulkair
Baron - it isn't that bad anymore. Honestly, there are many issues, some of them are glaring. But I think a lot of what you're referring to comes from several years back. We've made some vast improvements since those days. I've been here over 10 now - so I have a little perspective. I'm sure many others on here will have me drawn & quartered for saying this - but I believe it to be true. We can get into specifics if you like - but right now me wife says breakfast is ready!!!
Hey Sulkair, thanks for the reply! Enjoy your breakfast!
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