For me it's about bases honestly, if I could do it all over again (aside from not being a pilot at all) I would have gone to Skywest because they still have CA bases. Eagle was only good for me when LAX was a base. I wouldnt go to a regional without a base in California even if they offered street captaincy.

I'll believe those people won't face the stagnation when it stops being stagnant. So far nothing has changed.

 

Right on. I was hired in 2003, left in 2007. Different regional, same result. Only 2 guys from my original new hire class at Mesa are still there. A couple bailed to Skywest for a 'better QOL'. They're all still there. The other 20 or so are at Southwest, Delta, United, JetBlue, Atlas, Cathay Pacific, Emirates, Spirit, Virgin America etc.

My advice, as someone who's made the move: get hired, take the first available upgrade, and get out as soon as you can. If that opportunity is likely to happen fastest at Mesa or Compass right now, then that's where I'd want to get hired today.

Good luck.

 

So what's the word on when they're going to start interviewing again? Do they take resumes directly or is airlineapps the only way to apply?

 

Flip of the coin. Lots of people getting hired right now seem to be know someone on the inside.

I got a random call and I wasn't even looking at going back to the airlines.

 

I'd just like to know when the classes start up again!

 

Hold on - I messed it up.

 

Ok, fixed now...

I built a little Spreadsheet to help you guys project upgrade times with the projected growth on the horizon.

You basically plug in the variables you think make sense, like staffing levels you expect, and total fleet size, predicted attrition, etc.

I'll just let the math speak for itself, good or bad. Keep in mind if you get a negative number under the results side it means that number of guys hired in that time-frame would not have an opportunity to upgrade.

Do yourself a favor. Don't plug in more than 10 pilots per plane. These represent truly active pilots, not total pilots, and I don't see that number EVER going above 10, rule 117 notwithstanding. But if you like rosey predictions, and you disagree with me, then bump it up all you want

Feel free to alter all you want. And by all means point out any errors you find

 

Dude, nice.

A couple of questions:

"Current Status" is 70 airplanes, judging from the Mesa APC profile page that's not inclusive of the 9 900s delivered this summer?

Also, APC lists Mesa as having 855 pilots on the seniority list.

I guess what I'm saying is we need an update of what "Current Status" is.

 

I'm using the latest real data... only people filling seats full time as we speak - No instructors, ALPA, Managers, Trainees, or Leave of absences.

Let me look at the fleet size again, but I'm pretty sure 70 includes the nine latest 900's

 

Just checking. I know that APC numbers are sometimes taken as Gospel, just wanted to double check.