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02-07-2014 | 05:10 PM
#1451
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Correct me if I'm wrong guys - In a nutshell looks like they won't be habitually putting pilots on ready reserve after flights but instead releasing them back to de facto 90 minute short call - however it will not be defined as short call. It will be defined as staying in the same FDP they were just flying under. (parking brake doesn't end a FDP for a reserve pilot, only a lineholder). According to email put out by both company and union, remaining in this FDP status will obligate the pilot to be available for further assignment exactly as though they were on short-call reserve and they will remain in this de facto short call status until the expiration of their FDP as calculated by the table.
Is this how ya'll interpret the recent emails?
Is this how ya'll interpret the recent emails?
02-07-2014 | 05:25 PM
#1452
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From: CRJ
Yes, without the ready reserve pay at the end! It doesn't seem right at all...
What I want to know is if anyone is getting close to their max duty hours for the rolling 28 days?
What I want to know is if anyone is getting close to their max duty hours for the rolling 28 days?
02-07-2014 | 05:28 PM
#1453
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From: gear slinger
Yes sir! I got the call this past week, the same day they announced the extra 900s coming online, and the recruiter asked if I could make a Feb 20 class. That's not quite enough time given my situation so I got placed in the March 13 class. He said they had the Feb class closed out previously but were a few extra slots. Also I believe he said something about a total of ten 900s coming online but don't quote me on that.
02-07-2014 | 05:48 PM
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Yes sir! I got the call this past week, the same day they announced the extra 900s coming online, and the recruiter asked if I could make a Feb 20 class. That's not quite enough time given my situation so I got placed in the March 13 class. He said they had the Feb class closed out previously but were a few extra slots. Also I believe he said something about a total of ten 900s coming online but don't quote me on that.
02-07-2014 | 05:53 PM
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From: 175 Left
Correct me if I'm wrong guys - In a nutshell looks like they won't be habitually putting pilots on ready reserve after flights but instead releasing them back to de facto 90 minute short call - however it will not be defined as short call. It will be defined as staying in the same FDP they were just flying under. (parking brake doesn't end a FDP for a reserve pilot, only a lineholder). According to email put out by both company and union, remaining in this FDP status will obligate the pilot to be available for further assignment exactly as though they were on short-call reserve and they will remain in this de facto short call status until the expiration of their FDP as calculated by the table.
Is this how ya'll interpret the recent emails?
Is this how ya'll interpret the recent emails?
02-07-2014 | 05:56 PM
#1456
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From: gear slinger
02-07-2014 | 05:58 PM
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Definitely something we'll need to keep track of. With an average of ~18 days reserve per rolling 28 days, that only allows for an on average of 10.5 hours FDP per day. Beyond that average and you would push past 190. Probably won't happen easily, but could if you flew early in your shift everyday and was always kept on the full length of your FDP.
02-07-2014 | 10:14 PM
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Prior121, you are right, I am a tool.
Please don't tell anyone. By the way, I have restored multiple antique aircraft, A&P/IA, CFI/CFII, Dispatcher, 4 type ratings, no checkride failures, and no DUI's. I know that you hold DUI's in high regard to pilot abilities. Please forgive me, I am a tool.
02-08-2014 | 12:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by klondike
MD...
You gotta admit... Changing out all of your Memphis or Denver plates is a bit of a pain in the butt every time they decide to change an atis, clearance, approach, departure frequency or re-index the charts.
No offense Sir...just sayin'
Klondike, I had the unfortunate experience of seeing the burned out wreakage of a Kingair. The pilot had an outdated chart that didn't show the tower he hit. It made a lasting impression on me. I keep my charts updated.
Prior121, you are right, I am a tool.
Please don't tell anyone. By the way, I have restored multiple antique aircraft, A&P/IA, CFI/CFII, Dispatcher, 4 type ratings, no checkride failures, and no DUI's. I know that you hold DUI's in high regard to pilot abilities. Please forgive me, I am a tool.
Originally Posted by klondike
MD...
You gotta admit... Changing out all of your Memphis or Denver plates is a bit of a pain in the butt every time they decide to change an atis, clearance, approach, departure frequency or re-index the charts.
No offense Sir...just sayin'
Klondike, I had the unfortunate experience of seeing the burned out wreakage of a Kingair. The pilot had an outdated chart that didn't show the tower he hit. It made a lasting impression on me. I keep my charts updated.
Prior121, you are right, I am a tool.
Please don't tell anyone. By the way, I have restored multiple antique aircraft, A&P/IA, CFI/CFII, Dispatcher, 4 type ratings, no checkride failures, and no DUI's. I know that you hold DUI's in high regard to pilot abilities. Please forgive me, I am a tool.
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