Mesa
07-06-2014, 07:22 AM
#1551
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
Posts: 774
Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
I haven't even applied, but just for ****s and giggles...What's the new hire base? Iad? Also what's the scoop with upgrades? Apc. Com says Jr high captain hired in 03...?
07-06-2014, 11:07 AM
#1552
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 516
Originally Posted by Navmode
Junior captain is '08, but it'll be 2013 when they run the next bid. Junior base is iad/IAH depending on the airframe you are assigned.
07-06-2014, 11:11 AM
#1553
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Left
Posts: 1,809
Originally Posted by DayTripper12
It's interesting that you all say that you voted no...
Not really.
People that come on to websites like this one are generally more educated about how the industry works so they are more likely to vote no.
We also have almost 800 pilots right now. About 240 of those voted yes.
07-06-2014, 11:24 AM
#1554
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 94
Originally Posted by Goflynow
Thanks DayTripper12
I bet PSA will have a rough getting an Envoy jump seat.
I bet PSA will have a rough getting an Envoy jump seat.
this actually happens? I call BS.
07-07-2014, 05:48 AM
#1555
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: 175 Left
Posts: 1,539
Originally Posted by skillett
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Originally Posted by sulkair
Right now the most Jr mainland upgrade is about 9 1/2 years. Not sure about HI. Probably at least 6 yrs, maybe worse.
My prediction is that upgrade will return to about a 5 year average within the next year or two. Just a guess tho. Who knows! We would need to grow significantly for that to happen, and/or mainline hiring picks up significantly. So actually that is a foolish prediction to even make.
Mesa doesn't have an inordinate number of lifers, they just make up a larger percentage of the group than they used to because we went from near 2000 pilots to 650 in a short period of time. The only people who could hold the left seat after the decimation were ~10 year guys and of course they tended to be the people who hadn't moved on, (As we all know many reach a point with age, and pay, where it doesn't make sense to move on.)
If Mesa could grow again to a pilot group of 2000 then those 200 to 300 pilots who are truly lifers (if they even represent a number that big) would only represent 10 to 15 % of the group, as they once did.
Do I personally see us ever being that big again? Not rea, but who knows?
Would have to grow to 2000 before short upgrades happen again? Not going to happen. Not enough pilots out there. You are feeding the koolaid with Vodka. You will have a better chance getting a job at mainline before you upgrade here in five years. Most Captains hear over 50 and not planning on starting over, I fly with them everyday. If your a senior Captain here you have a pretty good life. On reserve your screwed. Line holding FO not to bad if you like bringing home about 36,000 a year. But it will get worse. We are short FO's now!
Originally Posted by sulkair
Right now the most Jr mainland upgrade is about 9 1/2 years. Not sure about HI. Probably at least 6 yrs, maybe worse.
My prediction is that upgrade will return to about a 5 year average within the next year or two. Just a guess tho. Who knows! We would need to grow significantly for that to happen, and/or mainline hiring picks up significantly. So actually that is a foolish prediction to even make.
Mesa doesn't have an inordinate number of lifers, they just make up a larger percentage of the group than they used to because we went from near 2000 pilots to 650 in a short period of time. The only people who could hold the left seat after the decimation were ~10 year guys and of course they tended to be the people who hadn't moved on, (As we all know many reach a point with age, and pay, where it doesn't make sense to move on.)
If Mesa could grow again to a pilot group of 2000 then those 200 to 300 pilots who are truly lifers (if they even represent a number that big) would only represent 10 to 15 % of the group, as they once did.
Do I personally see us ever being that big again? Not rea, but who knows?
Would have to grow to 2000 before short upgrades happen again? Not going to happen. Not enough pilots out there. You are feeding the koolaid with Vodka. You will have a better chance getting a job at mainline before you upgrade here in five years. Most Captains hear over 50 and not planning on starting over, I fly with them everyday. If your a senior Captain here you have a pretty good life. On reserve your screwed. Line holding FO not to bad if you like bringing home about 36,000 a year. But it will get worse. We are short FO's now!
Hawaii has closed.
E175 on cert and up and running. 5 total delivered. 25 more on the way.
19 total more CRJ900s added to the fleet since Spring 2013. Last 6 come on line this summer/fall.
Most junior CA will most likely be 2013 in the next award. (This month)
ORD closing Sept.
CLT probably closing. All CRJ900s going to PHX and possibly DFW.
PSA 900s cover out of CLT. We will be west coast.
IAD will be all UA CRJ700 base
IAH all UA E175 base.
Possibility of ORD E175 base.
PHX, CLT(for now) UsAir CRJ900 base
~820 total pilots on the seniority list.
07-07-2014, 06:23 AM
#1556
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: East coast
Posts: 380
Originally Posted by John2375
seriously??
this actually happens? I call BS.
this actually happens? I call BS.
07-07-2014, 01:24 PM
#1557
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 94
Originally Posted by Ramprat
It's very true, unfortunately, though rare. I've heard two first hand accounts over the past year.
07-07-2014, 02:07 PM
#1558
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,602
New award just got posted I'm not sure how to see the hire date though lol.
And I don't think the mods want you posting pilots info on here. Needless to say very unprofessional.
And I don't think the mods want you posting pilots info on here. Needless to say very unprofessional.
07-07-2014, 02:36 PM
#1559
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 726
Originally Posted by NovemberBravo
New award just got posted I'm not sure how to see the hire date though lol.
And I don't think the mods want you posting pilots info on here. Needless to say very unprofessional.
And I don't think the mods want you posting pilots info on here. Needless to say very unprofessional.
07-07-2014, 02:36 PM
#1560
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 555
Originally Posted by NovemberBravo
New award just got posted I'm not sure how to see the hire date though lol.
And I don't think the mods want you posting pilots info on here. Needless to say very unprofessional.
And I don't think the mods want you posting pilots info on here. Needless to say very unprofessional.
It is indeed a 2013 hire. Looks like there are lots of E175 hold outs.
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