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Old 07-04-2014, 11:37 AM
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That is very hard to say since all the captains needed for announced growth are probably already on the property. Attrition has been low, but that might pick up and Mesa may get more flying (or not, who knows?!) That is why it is hard to say.


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Old 07-04-2014, 01:09 PM
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That is very hard to say since all the captains needed for announced growth are probably already on the property. Attrition has been low, but that might pick up and Mesa may get more flying (or not, who knows?!) That is why it is hard to say.


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Yeah, I figured it was a hard call. So many variables out there and hard to get a grasp on them. Being that a person could pretty much choose any regional they want these days, making the right call is getting tough.
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Old 07-05-2014, 12:01 PM
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Like the gsd icon, I raise shepherds as a hobby, that's a hobby that pays less than flying.

I paid for all my flying (except for the one hour my mom gave me at 15).

Flew helicopters first - yah expensive but I also work hard. Real hard sometimes 100 hour weeks.

Yah own a plane in a hangar too - see the work hard part. And I fly it, just RT ORL - STX (and all points in between) in a 38 gal useable C172.

Plan A is poss. Get a flying job but not to get exploited and no one here should get exploited. If no one flew for 22k what would happen.

Perhaps Chinese students would fly or the CEOs would market drones, and you know the $79 LAX - EWR flights would be filled.

But if that don't happen, I'll just pay for a few type ratings just to prove to myself I can fly a jet, and keep on working hard and get a Twin.

Meanwhile how do I find out exactly what PSA did?

If my current job flames out then yah 22k might look awesome

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Summary of Tentative Agreements on 8-27-13

• Current pay rates (longevity and annual increases) in Section 3.A.1 of the Agreement remain the same through March 31, 2018.
• Pay rates are extended until March 31, 2023 with 1% yearly increases.
• All pilots will still receive pay rate increases caused by adjustments to the blended rate resulting from the addition of large jets to the fleet.
• All pilots will still receive pay rate increases of 0.03% for each large jet added to the fleet in excess of the current 49 aircraft (this calculation is done prior to calculating the blended pay rate).
• The following pay caps and pay freezes will apply to all pilots and will occur upon the delivery of the first 71-90 seat jet aircraft (anticipated to be July 2014):
o Captain longevity pay is capped at 12 years of service or the pilot’s actual years of service, whichever is greater.
o First Officer longevity pay is capped at 4 years of service or the pilot’s actual years of service, whichever is greater.
• Pilots who decline a job offer or fail training at US Airways and return to PSA will cease to receive longevity pay rate increases and April 1 annual increases at the time they decline the offer or fail training.
• Pilots who fail to fill out the required paperwork to apply for a position at US Airways prior to December 1, 2013 or within 10 months of their date of hire will be considered to have declined a job offer. Such pilots will cease to receive longevity pay rate increases and April 1 annual increases at the time their seniority would otherwise grant them an interview at Airways.
• Pilots who do not meet the eligibility requirements for a US Airways interview described in LOA #3 are not subject to the freezes to longevity and April 1 annual increases described in the two bullet points immediately above.
• Pilots who are not offered a job at US Airways after their first interview will continue to receive April 1 annual increases, but their longevity increases will be capped at the greater of their current longevity step or at 12 years (for Captains) and 4 years (for First Officers).
• Pilots who are not offered a position at US Airways after a Repeat Opportunity as described in LOA #3 following his second interview will cease to receive longevity pay rate increases and April 1 annual increases.
• Pilots at the top of the PSA pay rate scale (18 years and above) may decline a job offer at US Airways and continue to receive 1% annual increases on April 1.
• Longevity caps and freezes apply to pay rates only, not to other accruals based on longevity such as vacation, sick leave, retirement, etc.
• Current per diem ($1.65 per hour as of 4/1/2013; $1.70 as of 10/1/2014; $1.75 as of 4/1/2016 and $1.80 as of 10/1/2017) modified to eliminate the 10/1/2017 increase to $1.80.
• Current medical insurance premium cost sharing percentage of 27% for the life of the Agreement changed to 29% on 1/1/14; 31% on 1/1/15; 33% on 1/1/16; and 35% on 1/1/17.
• Duration of the Agreement extended from 5 to 10 years.
• LOA #4 is null and void if no 71-90 seat aircraft are delivered by December 31, 2015 or if the merger of US Airways Group and AMR does not occur by December 31, 2015.
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Old 07-05-2014, 04:06 PM
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Thanks DayTripper12

I bet PSA will have a rough getting an Envoy jump seat.
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Old 07-05-2014, 04:26 PM
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Thanks DayTripper12

I bet PSA will have a rough getting an Envoy jump seat.
I jumpseat on eagle and I've never had a problem. I don't know anyone at PSA that has been denied a jumpseat.
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Old 07-05-2014, 04:39 PM
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I jumpseat on eagle and I've never had a problem. I don't know anyone at PSA that has been denied a jumpseat.
This is just a myth! Although we are disappointed with the outcome of the PSA deal neither myself nor anyone I know here at eagle would deny the jumpseat! There may be a couple internet tough guys but the majority of us wouldn't ever deny the jump and most of us go out of our way to get our dumb ops to get guys on.
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Old 07-05-2014, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jvw700 View Post
This is just a myth! Although we are disappointed with the outcome of the PSA deal neither myself nor anyone I know here at eagle would deny the jumpseat! There may be a couple internet tough guys but the majority of us wouldn't ever deny the jump and most of us go out of our way to get our dumb ops to get guys on.
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Old 07-05-2014, 05:11 PM
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Great to see professionalism wins out...you'd never know reading some of these posts. I can say I sure do learn a lot by reading many of these threads and thankfully can see through most of the anger, division, etc.
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Old 07-05-2014, 05:22 PM
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I jumpseat on eagle and I've never had a problem. I don't know anyone at PSA that has been denied a jumpseat.
It's interesting that you all say that you voted no...
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Old 07-06-2014, 06:33 AM
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I haven't even applied, but just for xxxx and giggles...What's the new hire base? Iad? Also what's the scoop with upgrades? Apc. Com says Jr high captain hired in 03...?

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