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Old 08-19-2014 | 07:53 AM
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Is anyone else not disturbed by this new development? Forcing a new hire to buy an iPad to get a job is bull. Once again Mesa management is leading the charge towards the race to the bottom. I sure hope you new guys know who you're dealing with and are going in with eyes wide open. The quick upgrade won't happen if they can't hire because of this.
Old 08-19-2014 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Shiner
Is anyone else not disturbed by this new development? Forcing a new hire to buy an iPad to get a job is bull. Once again Mesa management is leading the charge towards the race to the bottom. I sure hope you new guys know who you're dealing with and are going in with eyes wide open. The quick upgrade won't happen if they can't hire because of this.
on the surface, Shiner, it does sound like a ****ty deal. But, trust me on this one- all the crap(manuals/Jepps,etc.) I had to carry around in a flight bag while at Mesa was enough to sink a battle ship and cause back problems.

The EFB is worth the money.
Old 08-19-2014 | 08:20 AM
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BTW, I went back about 15 pages in this thread. I see that LAX looks like a TDY assignment. With CLT drawing down, where would a Mesa new hire F/O probably go today??
Also, does a new hire have a choice between the ERJ and CRJ???

Any mesa pilots on here could answer this for me???
Old 08-19-2014 | 08:30 AM
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They prefer ERJ new-hires have experience in type or at least a good grasp of glass cockpits. That said, you can certainly ask for a spot, but you may have to wait longer for an open class.

Prior to CLT drawing down, most new guys went to Dulles. Charlotte was a little more senior, and Phoenix was most senior. That's all in flux now. Because ORD is just about done and gone to IAD, that's even bigger, so you'd think new-hires might be there even longer. Then again, East coast guys who've long held CLT might now decide to go to IAD, filling that up. When Dallas starts operating around the end of the year/start of next year, that might be a popular option and draw people away from traditionally-hard-to-hold Phoenix.

So it's hard to say, but with the amount of growth and rearranging of chess pieces, you can probably get to any one of the domiciles within a few months (friend of mine got Phoenix 3 months after hire, I'm hoping for the same).

Of course, it's all irrelevant if you're ERJ. Then you'll go to Houston.
Old 08-19-2014 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by klondike
on the surface, Shiner, it does sound like a ****ty deal. But, trust me on this one- all the crap(manuals/Jepps,etc.) I had to carry around in a flight bag while at Mesa was enough to sink a battle ship and cause back problems.

The EFB is worth the money.
Are you still required to carry the Paper version as well or did they get rid of that?
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No paper at all.
Old 08-19-2014 | 08:37 AM
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Just read that fractional ownership in at least one Crj 900 is required before you start new hire training!
Old 08-19-2014 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
They prefer ERJ new-hires have experience in type or at least a good grasp of glass cockpits. That said, you can certainly ask for a spot, but you may have to wait longer for an open class.

Prior to CLT drawing down, most new guys went to Dulles. Charlotte was a little more senior, and Phoenix was most senior. That's all in flux now. Because ORD is just about done and gone to IAD, that's even bigger, so you'd think new-hires might be there even longer. Then again, East coast guys who've long held CLT might now decide to go to IAD, filling that up. When Dallas starts operating around the end of the year/start of next year, that might be a popular option and draw people away from traditionally-hard-to-hold Phoenix.

So it's hard to say, but with the amount of growth and rearranging of chess pieces, you can probably get to any one of the domiciles within a few months (friend of mine got Phoenix 3 months after hire, I'm hoping for the same).

Of course, it's all irrelevant if you're ERJ. Then you'll go to Houston.
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Old 08-19-2014 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Shiner
Is anyone else not disturbed by this new development? Forcing a new hire to buy an iPad to get a job is bull. Once again Mesa management is leading the charge towards the race to the bottom. I sure hope you new guys know who you're dealing with and are going in with eyes wide open. The quick upgrade won't happen if they can't hire because of this.
I used to agree with this thought process.

Then, the more I thought about it, I had to ask myself: How do I value my time?

Are you paid extra hours on top of your monthly guarantee to do jepp revisions at other airlines? We sure weren't at RAH.

Let's say an average month consist of 5 hours of jepp revisions. I'll just throw the number out there that I value my spare time at: $15/hour.

At 5 hours a month that is $75 worth of my time.

How long until a $300 iPad pays for itself in time saved to do other things that I rather do with my spare time?
Old 08-19-2014 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by prior121
I used to agree with this thought process.

Then, the more I thought about it, I had to ask myself: How do I value my time?

Are you paid extra hours on top of your monthly guarantee to do jepp revisions at other airlines? We sure weren't at RAH.

Let's say an average month consist of 5 hours of jepp revisions. I'll just throw the number out there that I value my spare time at: $15/hour.

At 5 hours a month that is $75 worth of my time.

How long until a $300 iPad pays for itself in time saved to do other things that I rather do with my spare time?
Shiner is trying re hash an old and dead argument. Even the union gave it up a year ago.

Great rational thinking Prior....well said
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