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#2521
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: CL-65 CA
Posts: 246
And most of the things you mentioned aren't specifically required. Uniforms are and my company paid for some of mine because it was in the contract. Everyone I know has a cell phone before starting. If some old gummer doesn't have one, it's not required for the job. Luggage is only required if you don't have any or you plan on changing clothes. Last time I checked, aircraft have clocks and flashlights. This isn't an apt comparison. The iPad requirement here is unprecedented in the industry right now.
#2522
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Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 287
Ok so what's the best then. Everyone seems to have the worst on Mesa then answer me this. Who has the best contract?
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#2523
Well... I bet you could throw Horizon up there and expressjet, Envoy has some awesome reserve rules. Skywest has some descent FO pay. All of these have a lot better of contracts then Mesa. Where is that ALPA document that compared all the regionals pay? You could see Mesa at the bottom off all the comparisons.
#2525
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: CL-65
Posts: 157
Could anyone PM me the cost of healthcare for personal and family? I have a class upcoming and am trying to do the budget. Thanks
#2526
Thats not what he asked. He asked about contracts. So if you want to talk about contracts, that would be great. We can have this debate over and over again about quick upgrades. I didn't respond to anything about a quick upgrade tho.
#2527
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Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: gear slinger
Posts: 982
This is not the appropriate forum to be asking about everyone else's contracts though. I myself and I'm sure a few others are tired of you "legacy" regional guys coming in here and knocking our gig. We get that you don't care for Mesa...now move on please!
#2528
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Originally Posted by Jet87
Thats not what he asked. He asked about contracts. So if you want to talk about contracts, that would be great. We can have this debate over and over again about quick upgrades. I didn't respond to anything about a quick upgrade tho.
This is not the appropriate forum to be asking about everyone else's contracts though. I myself and I'm sure a few others are tired of you "legacy" regional guys coming in here and knocking our gig. We get that you don't care for Mesa...now move on please!
Originally Posted by Jet87
Thats not what he asked. He asked about contracts. So if you want to talk about contracts, that would be great. We can have this debate over and over again about quick upgrades. I didn't respond to anything about a quick upgrade tho.
This is not the appropriate forum to be asking about everyone else's contracts though. I myself and I'm sure a few others are tired of you "legacy" regional guys coming in here and knocking our gig. We get that you don't care for Mesa...now move on please!
You can't blame them... How would you feel if you were a 5+ year FO at Skywest or Expressjet and you saw these guys upgrading at another regional in 16 months.
I'm jealous of their quick upgrade but what can I bash them on. Oh yeah, I've never really examined their contract but I hear all over the internet it's not as good as ours so I'll use that.
"Hey I might be a 6 year FO at Skywest but at least my contract is better!" (See I got those Mesa guys good!)
#2529
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Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 584
You really just have to ignore it. They're butthurt.
You can't blame them... How would you feel if you were a 5+ year FO at Skywest or Expressjet and you saw these guys upgrading at another regional in 16 months.
I'm jealous of their quick upgrade but what can I bash them on. Oh yeah, I've never really examined their contract but I hear all over the internet it's not as good as ours so I'll use that.
"Hey I might be a 6 year FO at Skywest but at least my contract is better!" (See I got those Mesa guys good!)
You can't blame them... How would you feel if you were a 5+ year FO at Skywest or Expressjet and you saw these guys upgrading at another regional in 16 months.
I'm jealous of their quick upgrade but what can I bash them on. Oh yeah, I've never really examined their contract but I hear all over the internet it's not as good as ours so I'll use that.
"Hey I might be a 6 year FO at Skywest but at least my contract is better!" (See I got those Mesa guys good!)
#2530
I didn't ask the question about contracts, I answered him. So please address the guy that did. You should take a look the the document your MEC put out where it has line graphs comparing all the regionals and their pay, accrual, per diem , etc. Mesa is at the bottom of every single one.
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