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Old 10-17-2014 | 09:07 PM
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I'm told I will find out November 1st, I'm assuming the CRJ since I have no prior 121 experience and just a low hours fresh out of college CFI guy lol.
Old 10-17-2014 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottyDo
I'm told I will find out November 1st, I'm assuming the CRJ since I have no prior 121 experience and just a low hours fresh out of college CFI guy lol.
Just show up for EJET class and pretend they messed up your paperwork. ha The CRJ sucks.
Old 10-17-2014 | 09:10 PM
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Just show up for EJET class and pretend they messed up your paperwork. ha The CRJ sucks.
Haha I will try that, I would definitely like to get on the E Jet but honestly anything is better than a 172 right about now.
Old 10-17-2014 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
Just heard that 4 out of the 16 (25%) in the 8/20 class washed out of sim, all had 3000+ TT. There was one washout from my class (7/24), older gentleman who failed the checkride twice.
Total time has ZERO to do with preparedness for the 121 world, and ZERO to do with whether one should pass a checkride or not.

By your logic, United should hire a 50 y/o who flew 5,000 hours farting around in his 172 in rural Kansas over the course of two decades, versus an F/A-18 pilot with 2,000 hours TT.

What matters is the quality of training you've received prior to coming to the 121 world, and the timeframe/quality of experience your hours represent--total time, age, and even specific airlines' training departments can't change any of that.

A 25% washout rate is not unreasonable AT ALL for people taking their first 121 checkride. A training department can only do so much to help people out--at some point people just need to acknowledge they aren't cut out for flying a jet in a 121 environment.

In any randomly-sampled group of 100 people with First Class medicals and ATP licenses, there will ALWAYS be a certain number of people who:

1) Lack the muscle memory, motor skills, comprehension of flows/profiles/limitations to manage a jet in a 121 environment

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2) Lack the combination of motivation and cognitive abilities to remember flows/profiles/callouts, to execute them in a sim, and to deal with emergencies and work with other people in a cockpit environment

I am SO GLAD they are washing out 25% of new hires. This isn't an effing theme park for career-changers who want to play with a CRJ/EJet--it's an airline and people die if you aren't cut out for this type of work.
Old 10-17-2014 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottyDo
Haha I will try that, I would definitely like to get on the E Jet but honestly anything is better than a 172 right about now.
Prior121 let's try to pull some strings for this guy and get him in an EJet class.
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
Prior121 let's try to pull some strings for this guy and get him in an EJet class.
I think I would ****t and jizz my pants at the same time.
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed

Prior121 let's try to pull some strings for this guy and get him in an EJet class.
yeah some of his comments actually made me laugh, I wanna fly with this guy.
Old 10-17-2014 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
yeah some of his comments actually made me laugh, I wanna fly with this guy.
Haha hook me up bro!
Old 10-17-2014 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
By your logic, United should hire a 50 y/o who flew 5,000 hours farting around in his 172 in rural Kansas over the course of two decades, versus an F/A-18 pilot with 2,000 hours TT.
I'm sorry, by my logic? Exactly what position did I take in my post that enabled you to make assumptions about my logic? Those were pure statements of fact as presented to me by a guy in the 8/20 class and classmates of mine in the 7/24 class.
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
I'm sorry, by my logic? Exactly what position did I take in my post that enabled you to make assumptions about my logic? Those were pure statements of fact as presented to me by a guy in the 8/20 class and classmates of mine in the 7/24 class.
Ummmm...you mentioned that the class with 25% washouts all had "3,000" plus total time??? As if that means something for a 121 checkride???

Maybe I misinterpreted your post--I'm just saying a 25% washout rate is natural in any regional 121 class, regardless of the total time anyone in that class had. Without further information on HOW they got their 3,000+ hours TT, no one cares about a 25% washout rate...that's all I'm trying to say.
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