prior121

Why? You're getting a lot of 2nd career type guys who are 55 and have built 2,000TT over 15 years flying their 172 around.

You can't expect them to pick up flying their first jet and the airline world as easily as a 22 year old fresh outta Purdue.

I think a 75% pass rate is more than typical when you have 50% of the class made up of 2nd career types.

ScottyDo

There was a guy like that at an open house I went to who looked 50 and I was like *** are you doing here?

prior121

I wish I could make the iPhone emojis of someone laughing so hard they're crying. So "lol" will have to work.

You in class now? A friend of my brothers just started Wednesday

ScottyDo

Haha, and no I don't start class until January I think. I have about 200 hours to go until I reach R-ATP minimums.

prior121

EJET or CRJ?

ScottyDo

I'm told I will find out November 1st, I'm assuming the CRJ since I have no prior 121 experience and just a low hours fresh out of college CFI guy lol.

prior121

Just show up for EJET class and pretend they messed up your paperwork. ha The CRJ sucks.

ScottyDo

Haha I will try that, I would definitely like to get on the E Jet but honestly anything is better than a 172 right about now.

flapshalfspeed

Total time has ZERO to do with preparedness for the 121 world, and ZERO to do with whether one should pass a checkride or not.

By your logic, United should hire a 50 y/o who flew 5,000 hours farting around in his 172 in rural Kansas over the course of two decades, versus an F/A-18 pilot with 2,000 hours TT.

What matters is the quality of training you've received prior to coming to the 121 world, and the timeframe/quality of experience your hours represent--total time, age, and even specific airlines' training departments can't change any of that.

A 25% washout rate is not unreasonable AT ALL for people taking their first 121 checkride. A training department can only do so much to help people out--at some point people just need to acknowledge they aren't cut out for flying a jet in a 121 environment.

In any randomly-sampled group of 100 people with First Class medicals and ATP licenses, there will ALWAYS be a certain number of people who:

1) Lack the muscle memory, motor skills, comprehension of flows/profiles/limitations to manage a jet in a 121 environment

and/or

2) Lack the combination of motivation and cognitive abilities to remember flows/profiles/callouts, to execute them in a sim, and to deal with emergencies and work with other people in a cockpit environment

I am SO GLAD they are washing out 25% of new hires. This isn't an effing theme park for career-changers who want to play with a CRJ/EJet--it's an airline and people die if you aren't cut out for this type of work.

flapshalfspeed

Prior121 let's try to pull some strings for this guy and get him in an EJet class.