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Old 06-14-2015, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing View Post
Anybody know how to view loads and standby list on Wings?
Speaking of Wings, rumor has it Airways and AA are going to be merging their benefits in October and we be losing our Airways benefits. Has anyone heard anything similar?

If that's true, I need to hurry up and use up my buddy passes before October
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:49 AM
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Thanks for input, looks like this is the path I'm gonna follow at the moment.
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:30 AM
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Does anyone know what percentage of Mesa's list is over 60?
I believe there are close to 40 pilots over 60....the percentage changes monthly since we're still hiring
You can look through the back of the contract to count them up.
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Old 06-15-2015, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Pullout View Post
Ok, this is my two cents.

Most myopic? Really? Before you label it most myopic, hear me out.

A few people are moving on. But where they are moving onto most is what is troubling. Very few, are onto the legacies. And most of those are either minority and/or women. The others are off to LCCs like Spirit, Allegiant etc. Not exactly every pilot's dream job but definitely better than Mesa. I know we have some wonder FO's on here that think they're special because they're mom's raised them to think that way, but there are hundreds of pilots with better credentials that what they assume and are still waiting for that interview call. And 5-10 must also factor in retirement, medical, FMLA etc. It's a fraction of 1% best case scenario.
Looking at history is always a good practice when trying to decipher what the future may bring. Those LCC's you speak of are still career airlines flying their own code, and not a bad place to hang your hat. If anything, you get an Airbus type rating which sets you aside from the thousands of RJ folks in the big 3 pool.

Looking to the future, the trend for 100+ new-hire pilots PER major is going to continue for 10+ years. The pilot factories don't have the backfill capabilities for the regionals. We still have the luxury to cherry-pick what we want, but that won't last more than another couple of years.

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You assume I'm saying we aren't being hired because we are a bad pilot group. Quite the opposite. Think outside the box. Mesa is one of United's top performing and lowest cost regionals. That is the simple reason they are awarding us with all this new flying; American too. It's simple business. Now if they start taking from one of their most reliable/cheapest, then we start having results like Republic is having now. It would be like United eating it's own foot. The good foot, not the limping one. Now why would it want to cannibalize it's good foot?
First off, UAL is very HR driven and will do anything to avoid a lawsuit. Even the hint of impropriety, such as excluding one regional based on their UAX performance, is unfathomable. Mesa is unique because of its recent bankruptcy, and their is a huge divide in experience. The top of the Mesa list is made up of folks that may not be itching to leave, or are trying to get out but simply have a skeleton in the closet. Then you have the folks with lots of SIC time, but low on the TPIC time with no other special qualities that "ping" in the airline apps matrix (not a dig on any of you, btw). Then you have the folks that have been hired in the last 2 years getting experience and upgrading. I don't know the background of every individual at Mesa, but I would venture to guess it's about 90% the same as those at other regionals.

Now, to your UAX theory, let's flip that. Wouldn't UAL want to deplete AA's regionals, Mesa being one of them?

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Of course they're not going to stop hiring from SkyWest. Are those few bad apples bad for United business/finance or are they a pain in the ass for United pilots? VP's care about one of those factors, not so much the other.
UA is culture driven, and accountants don't do the hiring. And as I alluded to earlier, we're a little lawsuit shy, so we'll continue to evaluate candidates based on app scores rather than pedigree. Also, looks like more Ejets, some of which look to be going to Skywest:

This: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/united-ai ... 00768.html

And this: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSK ... 5?irpc=932
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Old 06-15-2015, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by airflight999 View Post
Speaking of Wings, rumor has it Airways and AA are going to be merging their benefits in October and we be losing our Airways benefits. Has anyone heard anything similar?

If that's true, I need to hurry up and use up my buddy passes before October
Not a rumor. The non-rev programs will be merged in October. It remains to be seen if non-wholly owned's will get access to the new system.
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Old 06-15-2015, 08:12 AM
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Not a rumor. The non-rev programs will be merged in October. It remains to be seen if non-wholly owned's will get access to the new system.
The non-rev program is already merged at envoy we have full travel benies on usair thru our aa jetnet. The D3 (buddy passes) are not yet available on usair untill they merge the computer system later this year. I believe I read in jetnet that wings will be merged into our aa jetnet... Luv my aa travel benefits..
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Old 06-15-2015, 08:15 AM
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UA is culture driven, and accountants don't do the hiring. And as I alluded to earlier, we're a little lawsuit shy, so we'll continue to evaluate candidates based on app scores rather than pedigree. Also, looks like more Ejets, some of which look to be going to Skywest:

This: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/united-ai ... 00768.html

And this: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSK ... 5?irpc=932[/QUOTE]

I guess that clears up the rumor of Mesa having first right of refusal of the 30 new EJets
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon View Post
UA is culture driven, and accountants don't do the hiring. And as I alluded to earlier, we're a little lawsuit shy, so we'll continue to evaluate candidates based on app scores rather than pedigree. Also, looks like more Ejets, some of which look to be going to Skywest:

This: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/united-ai ... 00768.html

And this: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSK ... 5?irpc=932
I guess that clears up the rumor of Mesa having first right of refusal of the 30 new EJets[/QUOTE]

I didn't see a mention of SkyWest or Mesa anywhere in those PRs.
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Where does it say that some are going to Skywest? In the second article? Link is dead.
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Embraer S.A.: United Airlines to Add More E175s to... -- SAO JOSE DOS CAMPOS, Brazil, June 15, 2015 /PRNewswire/ --

SAO JOSE DOS CAMPOS, Brazil, June 15, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- Embraer S.A. announced today at the 51st International Paris Air Show an agreement with United Airlines to add additional E175 jets to the United Express fleet. The agreement consists of ten firm orders, which will be included in Embraer's 2015 second-quarter backlog. Additionally, Embraer expects that United or one of the carriers that operates as United Express will convert options for 18 aircraft to firm orders in the near term. The ten firm orders have an estimated value of USD 444 million based on current list price.

Delivery of the first of these aircraft is expected in 2016. The E175s are configured in a dual class 76-seat layout and will operate under the United Express brand. The carrier's 76-seat jet fleet will be comprised exclusively of E175s. This latest acquisition is in addition to a previous order from United Airlines for 30 E175s in April 2013.
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