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Old 05-26-2015 | 07:35 AM
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personal rant...if you are going to pilot an aircraft, know your aircraft. Especially if you have been piloting that aircraft for more than a year. No excuse to not know fundamental call outs and fundamental information vital to the safety of the aircraft operation in operations other than straight and level smooth air conditions. Know your go around callouts. New pilots just coming online seem to be better equipped to fly than veteran pilots. Don't get complacent.

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Old 05-26-2015 | 08:29 AM
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Old 05-26-2015 | 06:23 PM
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Does anyone know if United is actually awarding 30 more EJets to one of the Express carriers for August delivery slots onward?

I was looking at Embraer's order book and didn't see any mention of United holding 30 additional delivery slots/options/orders after the 30th Mesa 175 is delivered.

If anyone finds anything other than baseless speculation on that rumored 30 airplane order/30 delivery slots, lemme know.
Old 05-26-2015 | 06:42 PM
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Several of the news releases that announced the order of the first 30 (around April 2013) said United also had options for 40 more. The total deal was worth $2.9b if United exercised all the options.
Old 05-26-2015 | 07:07 PM
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Several of the news releases that announced the order of the first 30 (around April 2013) said United also had options for 40 more. The total deal was worth $2.9b if United exercised all the options.
Sounds more like they're only firming up 5 of those 40 at this time, and that they won't come until 2016 (to whoever gets them):

United firms five E175 options

By: Edward Russell
Washington DC
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16:10 24 Apr 2015


United Airlines has firmed options for five Embraer 175s with deliveries in 2016, as it continues to replace small regional jets with the 76-seat aircraft.

The Chicago-based carrier says that it is “currently negotiating with certain regional carriers to own and/or sublease and operate” the aircraft, in a quarterly stock exchange filing on 23 April.

The aircraft come from the 40 E175 options that United placed in April 2013. It ordered 30 firm aircraft at the time.
Mesa Airlines leases and operates the 30 aircraft with the last delivery due later this year.

United also contracts Republic Airlines and SkyWest Airlines to operate 95 more E175s for it under the United Express banner. The last of these aircraft will be delivered in 2017.

The mainline carrier is in the process of reducing the number of 50-seat regional jets in its fleet, with its chief financial officer John Rainey reiterating plans to remove 130 of the small jets by the end of this year. Further reductions will occur as aircraft come off lease in the coming years.
Old 05-26-2015 | 07:19 PM
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Good find! I don't find the news all that surprising to be honest with you. United is pretty maxed out on scope, certainly until January 2016, and even after that if they don't buy their own 190s, 195s or CS100s. They're probably still in the decision/negotiating process regarding those aircraft before they firm up any more 175s. These 5 aircraft are probably all they can put on line until they buy their own small NBs.
Old 05-26-2015 | 07:52 PM
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I have a friend who is a United MEC member and he says that mainline is VERY interested in getting the 175 on their seniority list.

Makes sense.
Old 05-26-2015 | 07:53 PM
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You mean mainline pilots, right?
Old 05-26-2015 | 08:34 PM
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Wouldn't it be cheaper to NOT have it on the seniority list? Or is this because of the scope problem?

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Old 05-26-2015 | 08:41 PM
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I think he meant the pilots are interested in having them on mainline property. I highly doubt mainline management is interested, for the very reason you mentioned: cost.

Interestingly enough, if mainline did fly them, they could put a few more seats on them and increase the weight to around 89k I think it is and offset the cost of more expensive pilots and flight attendants with increased revenue. I would be very interested to see what United thinks it could operate them for compared to what they pay Mesa to fly them.
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