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Old 07-31-2014 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarenceOver
just what i have been told by several people i know at amf. unless they are lying? but 135 flying is no walk in the park either
You have to challenge yourself to get better. If you aren't confident flying a jet at 250/3000 fpm with a plane full of families, it's going to be an easier transition flying a twin piston in real IMC doing 180/1000fpm. Some people can't make the leap from flying a c-172 to a full type in a jet and that's FINE. Don't set yourself up for failure. Get some IFR stick time in a twin. Scare yourself a few times...the boxes don't care.
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Originally Posted by sevenforseven
You failed the Mesa phone interview, didn't you.
Impossible. Because, well, there isn't one.
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Originally Posted by ClarenceOver
just what i have been told by several people i know at amf. unless they are lying? but 135 flying is no walk in the park either
121 is about procedures, protocol and profiles. They want you to do things EXACTLY as they tell you to. Flying the plane is almost secondary to all of that. I've been in classes with guys who were great sticks but tripped all over the airline profiles and checklist protocol (flows, callouts, etc.). In the end, that is what got them in trouble more than anything else. Think of 121 training like practicing an acting script - say and do everything exactly at the right time AND fly the plane as the COMPANY wants you to fly and you'll pass. Top gun it and you're done. Simple.

135 training usually takes place in a more "forgiving" environment such as CAE Simuflite or FlightSafety, where there is definitely an interest in seeing you pass (since YOU are the client and YOU [by proxy of your company] are paying for the training). They're not so much interested in how well you can run the prescribed script, but in your decision making skills and how well you fly the plane. So in that respect, yes that would be a challenge for someone who doesn't have the experience with decision making under stressful conditions.
Old 07-31-2014 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
You have to challenge yourself to get better. If you aren't confident flying a jet at 250/3000 fpm with a plane full of families, it's going to be an easier transition flying a twin piston in real IMC doing 180/1000fpm. Some people can't make the leap from flying a c-172 to a full type in a jet and that's FINE. Don't set yourself up for failure. Get some IFR stick time in a twin. Scare yourself a few times...the boxes don't care.
Great advice.
Old 07-31-2014 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kprc1
I couldn't agree more. I studied my ass off for an interview at SkyWest and Horizon. I spent over $1000 to train in a Frasca 142. And for what? A free flight to Portland or Salt Lake? A tough interview with no guarantee of an offer for a class date that will be in October? Then I come to realize that I want to upgrade in less than 7-11 years. Why sit right seat for that long?
Is a current SkyWest or Horizon FO more capable than me? I think not! Where I choose to work is MY CHOICE based on what I THINK is most important. I am glad I've had a few airlines to choose from.

Good luck to all new hires who choose where they want to work. Not where they end up.
Exactly right.
Old 07-31-2014 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Impossible. Because, well, there isn't one.
Ah yes the anecdotal Twitter and FB hires...

#canihazairlinepilotjob
Old 07-31-2014 | 04:27 PM
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Don't forget texting.
Old 07-31-2014 | 04:45 PM
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Don't forget texting.

I know a guy a Mesa hired that way
Old 07-31-2014 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by phlyingPhil
I know a guy a Mesa hired that way
now theres TWO OF THEM
Old 07-31-2014 | 05:09 PM
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New text from 602 685 4000:
"hey saw ur app u wanna fly a e170 lol your hired"
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