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#1921
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The only way Mesa can get enough people through the door is by literally not having any standards. A percentage of guys are competent, want to go there for bases, a perceived quick upgrade, whatever. Then there's the "others".
Whoo boy.
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Because it saves money (lol), ya know because dropping people after extra sims is so cheap.
The only way Mesa can get enough people through the door is by literally not having any standards. A percentage of guys are competent, want to go there for bases, a perceived quick upgrade, whatever. Then there's the "others".
Whoo boy.
The only way Mesa can get enough people through the door is by literally not having any standards. A percentage of guys are competent, want to go there for bases, a perceived quick upgrade, whatever. Then there's the "others".
Whoo boy.
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My concern is with people who need to work at a place with no interview and a "very, very, forgiving" training department.
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I for one am very glad Mesa does things the way they do--if someone can't make it through our very, very forgiving training department, they have no business flying my loved ones (or me) around in a friggin' jet--ever.
I'm seriously laughing out loud at how all the Mesa haters have such a chip on their shoulder about how we do interviews.
WHY do you care so much whether this PRIVATE company chooses to wash people out BEFORE or AFTER their hire date. WHYYYYYY?!?!?!??!
I'm seriously laughing out loud at how all the Mesa haters have such a chip on their shoulder about how we do interviews.
WHY do you care so much whether this PRIVATE company chooses to wash people out BEFORE or AFTER their hire date. WHYYYYYY?!?!?!??!
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Two things are going to happen later this year:
1) Last 900s on property
2) FO staffing levels (training bubble) to account for EJet/CRJ upgrades several months out could be achieved
Unless there's a big uptick in attrition or an acceleration of EJet deliveries (which could happen), base hopping might not work.
I'm just saying be cautious when doing that--the current pace of FO hiring and growth can't last forever, and "oh it's just LAX for a month brah" can quickly turn into months, years, lifetimes.
YMMV//just IMHO
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I for one am very glad Mesa does things the way they do--if someone can't make it through our very, very forgiving training department, they have no business flying my loved ones (or me) around in a friggin' jet--ever.
I'm seriously laughing out loud at how all the Mesa haters have such a chip on their shoulder about how we do interviews.
WHY do you care so much whether this PRIVATE company chooses to wash people out BEFORE or AFTER their hire date. WHYYYYYY?!?!?!??!
I'm seriously laughing out loud at how all the Mesa haters have such a chip on their shoulder about how we do interviews.
WHY do you care so much whether this PRIVATE company chooses to wash people out BEFORE or AFTER their hire date. WHYYYYYY?!?!?!??!
If Mesa were my company, I'd be asking several questions. Why is there an incentive to waste money and resources on candidates that have no right being there in the first place? Is this waste characteristic of other parts of their business plan? Does the company care so little for their people that they risk putting a black mark on your career forever as a ploy to attract as many applicants as possible? In what other ways is the company putting all the risk on my future career and my certificates that all the other cheerleaders are hiding?
My question here is, why do you all immediately come to the defense of Mesa? You are allowed to have a critical opinion and one that is not fed to you by recruiters and managers. It's healthy and might actually eventually lead to contract and QOL gains.
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I don't mean they're "very forgiving" in terms of standards. FaceBiter's gonna twist those words to no end now (jeez what is his beef with Mesa?!?!??!). So I deleted that post to save him/her some time.
By "forgiving" I meant they're much more willing to give people a few extra sim sessions, and a bit more time to study compared to many other regionals. They won't send you to the street unless you've proven again and again that you aren't going to hack it on the line.
Part of that is AQP, part of that is our training department's culture and the top notch people who work in it.
I don't mean to be a Mesa cheerleader--there are lots of things needing fixing around here--I'm just saying if you fail at Mesa you probably got the fairest shot possible in our training department, and you would very likely washout much quicker in a less forgiving/stingy training department and/or with some of the psycho check airmen at certain other 121 regionals with whom I am familiar.
By "forgiving" I meant they're much more willing to give people a few extra sim sessions, and a bit more time to study compared to many other regionals. They won't send you to the street unless you've proven again and again that you aren't going to hack it on the line.
Part of that is AQP, part of that is our training department's culture and the top notch people who work in it.
I don't mean to be a Mesa cheerleader--there are lots of things needing fixing around here--I'm just saying if you fail at Mesa you probably got the fairest shot possible in our training department, and you would very likely washout much quicker in a less forgiving/stingy training department and/or with some of the psycho check airmen at certain other 121 regionals with whom I am familiar.
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