Facebitten

. You guys have one of the worst contracts in the industry You don't understand that your contract is hurting the industry. By undercutting everyone else, we lose the ability to negotiate.

I said exactly this to the union yesterday and their response was "we are working on it" so yeah.............

FaceBiten

I'm first year at Mesa. Live in base in Phx and got a line all in short order. Got all the days off I requested on rsv and a decent schedule with a line. First year life isn't that bad here minus pay, which isn't far off most other places. I'm tired of non Mesa pilots spewing false crap about Mesa. Life used to suck here. It doesn't now. Get it in your nugget dude.

prior121

Your right, if someone's goal is to be a regional lifer, by all means, go to Skywest, that's what your saying right?

Now for the rest of us who plan on being at mainline before 2020....Then going to a regional during a huge growth spurt, is smart, it worked for me and my friends here.

People love to use the word "undercutting."
But in actuality no one knows what one regional gets per lift compared to another.

What is fact is Skywest DID UNDERCUT Mesa for the PHX flying.
(It is operated as a lost by Skywest INC.)

jrwit

You're right. If you would like to be a long term regional pilot, then Mesa most likely isn't for you. Our contract is pretty bad, not the worst mind you, but pretty bad.

That being said there is a lot of good outside of a poor contract:
-No 50 Seaters to park, with more 7x seaters trickling online
-Decent work environment/great group of pilots
-Seniority rising quickly on the FO side, allowing for decent QOL/Bidding
-Great training department
-Decently stable, new, codeshare agreements.



All of that being said, uh, who really wants to be a regional lifer outside of a small set of given circumstances (older, 2nd career change comes to mind). If you're not looking to be a long-term regional guy, and you're of a suitable age/marketability for the Majors/International/Overseas carriers, then you absolutely want to get to that left seat and start building TPIC to move on.

The lovely Skywest contract is the best in the regional industry, but you're still a regional. The elitism that you all spew around is just nuts. We all make peanuts, at least we don't have a complex about it over here at YV.

word302

You can call it whatever you want. I will make close to 50k as a 2nd year FO. The upgrade will come, I'm not worried about it. In the meantime, I can feed my family and actually afford the company healthcare. Guys with no TPIC are already getting picked up by the legacies, that trend will only get better in the coming years. I guess if that's elitism, call me elite.

word302

How much are they paying you to be the captain of a 76 seat jet? I know Kingair drivers who make more than that.

"But I'm loggin PIC time son"

Never mind.

Duct Mon

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Lololololololololololololololololololololololololo lol
And if you're at Skywest you'll have more than 7 years in the right seat regretting your decision. But hey at least you'll "think" you're at the "best" regional airline.

word302

Yes and while you're "paying your dues", I'll be getting paid.

tinman1

What are you talking about they are the best airline in the world! I mean who wouldn't want to work with these guys and their awesome attitudes??

Question: Do they teach you to drink your own Kool-aid and give each other handies in SKW indoc???

jrwit

See. I tried to be reasoned and level headed in my response and then, in typical Skywest fashion, you started spewing vitriol about a company you chose not to work for.

So fine. While you're 'getting paid', I'll have paid my dues, upgraded, and moved on to actually getting paid and treated properly. In the mean time I sure won't have to worry about watching my company shrink around me....all so I could "get paid" and pretend like I work at something other than a regional.