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01-20-2015, 04:53 PM
#5451
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Posts: 317
Originally Posted by FaceBiter
ALPA at the regional level is a total joke. Just go ahead and post your W2 so you can beat out that other expressjetter as the largest tool on this interwebz.
Mesa is the premier bottom feeder, the fact that it's a union carrier Is just pure comedy.
Mesa is the premier bottom feeder, the fact that it's a union carrier Is just pure comedy.
It must be hard to sit and stew about Mesa all day long, until it boils over and you feel compelled to write incredibly stupid stuff on an anonymous internet forum. I don't envy you.
01-20-2015, 05:19 PM
#5452
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 236
I find it hilarious that so many people think they can just pick the regional they want to go to. True, it is easier now than ever to do so, but lets be real, your going to the first airline that gives you the first class date, probably because you want to get your career going and getting 121 experience in your logbook.
Mesa has a lot of good people in the training department. I've heard some airlines, like PSA love to fail half the class over stupid stuff, never mind the person is still a good pilot. When you come to Mesa, the atmosphere is that of one that wants you to succeed, people want to see you pass. That alone can attract a lot of people here. It seems some airlines ego's are a little too big for their own good.
Mesa has a lot of good people in the training department. I've heard some airlines, like PSA love to fail half the class over stupid stuff, never mind the person is still a good pilot. When you come to Mesa, the atmosphere is that of one that wants you to succeed, people want to see you pass. That alone can attract a lot of people here. It seems some airlines ego's are a little too big for their own good.
01-20-2015, 05:22 PM
#5453
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 223
Originally Posted by prior121
I don't get you - you're a August 2014 hire - so you just came to Mesa five months ago, yet you ask a question about how will Mesa get new hires like a 12 year CA who is out of touch with the new hire crowd.
Well, why did YOU come here? Why did YOUR class mates come here.
If your ****ed that people keep coming here, you mister 5-month'r are part of the problem!
Not to mention your incoherent rambling about not flying on reserve, which if you know the slightest thing about how an airline works - is a GOOD thing. Wait til you're a line holder and want to drop or swap stuff. Lots of RSVs is a GOOD thing - your request will be approved.
YOU are in the base you wanted within five months of being hired. (PHX) When I was hired you had to be here atleast 8 years to hold PHX as an FO. It took me almost a year to get the base I wanted at RAH.
Why don't you quit, go to RAH or G7 or XJT, come back, then report to us what it's like to be at a REAL sh*tty airline with zero movement on the FO side. Where it takes 12-18 months just to get off FO RSV - not to upgrade..
Your complaints come across as a whiny ignorant FNG who is out of touch with what your peers in this industry are dealing with.
Well, why did YOU come here? Why did YOUR class mates come here.
If your ****ed that people keep coming here, you mister 5-month'r are part of the problem!
Not to mention your incoherent rambling about not flying on reserve, which if you know the slightest thing about how an airline works - is a GOOD thing. Wait til you're a line holder and want to drop or swap stuff. Lots of RSVs is a GOOD thing - your request will be approved.
YOU are in the base you wanted within five months of being hired. (PHX) When I was hired you had to be here atleast 8 years to hold PHX as an FO. It took me almost a year to get the base I wanted at RAH.
Why don't you quit, go to RAH or G7 or XJT, come back, then report to us what it's like to be at a REAL sh*tty airline with zero movement on the FO side. Where it takes 12-18 months just to get off FO RSV - not to upgrade..
Your complaints come across as a whiny ignorant FNG who is out of touch with what your peers in this industry are dealing with.
So why are you here?
01-20-2015, 05:26 PM
#5454
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 558
Originally Posted by Blackwing
SJS, 16 month upgrade, single occupancy hotel in training, and Republic, TSA, and Endeavor aren't any better. And not everyone fits the SkyWest mold.
01-20-2015, 05:28 PM
#5455
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 236
Originally Posted by Coneydog
Your delusional if you don't think TSA is better. You get paid during training (single occupancy) at TSA, have a way better contract including better pay and cancellation pay, and upgrade times are 6-18 months depending on your 121 time. That's just to name a few reasons. I have nothing against Mesa at all, but let's be realistic.
01-20-2015, 05:36 PM
#5456
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Posts: 236
Originally Posted by Kprc1
How was my question whiny or ignorant. I know why I came to Mesa. I have heard why my classmates came to Mesa. Things are changing in this industry all the time. So i asked why are people still choosing Mesa. Same reasons as before. even though some of the other airlines have increased their sign on bonus or have instituted a retention bonus. This shows that the pilots that come to Mesa dont care about the money. That's not why they're here.
So why are you here?
So why are you here?
When I came to Mesa, there was no talk about E-jets, or fast upgrades. Just fresh out of chapter 11, thats all... Needless to say, I can't complain about anything considering what everyone else had to endure previously with stagnation.
I think the only sound advice is to go where is the most convenient with the shortest upgrade times, and get out as quickly as possible. So many people will make excuses why they don't leave a regional, or can't... Less than 10% of them ever consider leaving the USA, or even have their papers in elsewhere!!! People get comfortable, they start to make excuses to justify staying, then talk themselves into not going elsewhere.
Never get comfortable, never stop trying, work hard towards getting that better job. You will succeed simply for not being lazy.
01-20-2015, 05:42 PM
#5457
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 78
Originally Posted by Coneydog
Your delusional if you don't think TSA is better. You get paid during training (single occupancy) at TSA, have a way better contract including better pay and cancellation pay, and upgrade times are 6-18 months depending on your 121 time. That's just to name a few reasons. I have nothing against Mesa at all, but let's be realistic.
01-20-2015, 05:45 PM
#5458
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Posts: 236
Originally Posted by Auzzie
At Mesa we DO get paid during training, the hotel rooms are single occupancy, we have cancellation pay, and upgrades right now are 18 months.
And 18 month upgrades were true 18 months ago... Probably closer to 24 months right now, but hell, if your CA qualified, JO said he would start hiring street captains later this year...
01-20-2015, 05:50 PM
#5459
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 558
Originally Posted by RB211
I have no idea if it is true or not, I just heard your training program was one of the hardest in the industry, and there was a higher washout rate from the other regionals. Is this true?
I know I just posted this on a Mesa thread, so let me also say that I have nothing at all against Mesa...great group of pilots from my experience
01-20-2015, 05:55 PM
#5460
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 558
Originally Posted by Auzzie
At Mesa we DO get paid during training, the hotel rooms are single occupancy, we have cancellation pay, and upgrades right now are 18 months.
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