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07-23-2015, 08:59 PM
#9101
Chief Engineer
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 815
Originally Posted by N6279P
So we're in agreement that saying "a legacy job at a major" makes no sense then? I'm super impressed with your copy and paste skills.
07-23-2015, 08:59 PM
#9102
sippin' dat koolaid
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: gear slinger
Posts: 982
Originally Posted by word302
So let me get this straight. You're looking out for others in the industry by flying jets for the lowest rates? Please explain..
07-23-2015, 09:00 PM
#9103
Chief Engineer
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 815
Originally Posted by Hou757
Wow. You truly are the problem with this industry. Either totally clueless or very selfish.
07-23-2015, 09:20 PM
#9104
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 558
Originally Posted by ScottyDo
I have no problem with wanting industry average. I just don't see the point in a 10 year battle only to no get it. As far as the "thousands of other qualified regional pilots" out there stuck at the regionals I am hesitant to say they are qualified. As an example a buddy of mine who has been in the right seat at Envoy for 3 years just got hired with Frontier with all SIC 121 time, and no he is not a woman or black. Another friend spent 2 years at compass before being picked up by Spirit and after 4 years there he has already upgraded. So either all of these "qualified" applicants out there have some sort of smudge on their record, or are just holding out for a legacy job. I would rather hold out for a legacy job at a major than the crap hole that is the regionals.
07-23-2015, 09:41 PM
#9105
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: 175 Left
Posts: 1,539
Originally Posted by Coneydog
Man, you are everything that's wrong with this occupation. Don't plan on being there that long eh? Tell that to the thousands of other regional pilots who are more qualified than you and have been stuck where they're at for a substantial amount of time. And demanding an industry AVERAGE contract is not "reaching for the moon". Especially in this day and age where regional pilots are at a premium.
All the majors will be hiring for the next 10+ years just to cover retirements.
07-23-2015, 09:44 PM
#9106
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: 175 Left
Posts: 1,539
Originally Posted by Coneydog
You are extremely naive if you think that its just that simple to get on with a legacy or even Spirit or Jet Blue. I could name 10 guys right now I personally know who are captains at Express Jet and Trans States with perfect records and can't get a call. Some of them are check airmen as well. I just rode in the Jumpseat with 9 year FO at Xjet(ASA) who has 17 letters of rec for Delta...17...and 4 of them are internal. Perfect record and no call. He's even doing all the job fairs ect.. The point is that you may be at your regional a lot longer than you plan on. It's about damn time that pilots in this industry start being compensated for what the job entails. Asking for an average contract from Mesa is moving in the right direction. Anything less, and you just set us back further. You guys are doing all of us a disservice if you accept the scraps they throw at you.
07-23-2015, 09:57 PM
#9107
Chief Engineer
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 815
Originally Posted by prior121
Sounds like all your friends suck.
07-23-2015, 10:04 PM
#9108
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: South Paw
Posts: 630
Wow, that was a stupid comment. I have several friends in the same boat right now. Qualified, smart, well kept with no skeletons. Hiring is offbeat right now. I know a guy who has 2 DUI's, hired at American this last year. Another had 2 captain 121 checkride busts, hired at United. Air Force, hired. No PIC 121, hired. The guys with the right qualifications are getting hired. Just not at the rate of pre-2008.
07-23-2015, 10:04 PM
#9109
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 558
Originally Posted by prior121
Sounds like all your friends suck.
07-23-2015, 10:05 PM
#9110
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: South Paw
Posts: 630
Originally Posted by prior121
One big difference. The LOST DECADE IS OVER.
All the majors will be hiring for the next 10+ years just to cover retirements.
All the majors will be hiring for the next 10+ years just to cover retirements.
Last edited by skillett; 07-23-2015 at 10:49 PM.
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