Originally Posted by prior121

All this Mesa bashing baffles me. Actually, it quite honestly makes me sick.

I am treated like a human being here which I was not at RAH.

I make more money here than RAH.

We have GREAT people in the training dept. We have two GREAT Chief Pilots.

I have only been here a year and I hold an 85 hour, 15 day off line.

I am looking at a fall upgrade.

So first year pay is two dollars less than you Skywest folks?

The difference is, if you get in now at Mesa, you will never see 3rd year FO pay, heck you may never see 2nd year FO pay.

Good grief.

Originally Posted by rcfd13

I'm glad to hear that things have improved there from what they were years ago. That being said the thing that would still turn me off to Mesa is the fact that they're cold calling people for classes that applied 10 years ago, and they're hiring people with only phone interviews. Those are the people I would have to sit in the cockpit with on a 4 day and they're just being hired because they have an ATP and a pulse. I imagine in the future you'll be forced to fly with some real pieces of work due to that practice.

Originally Posted by Ar Pilot

Not arguing for their practices, but you fly with real pieces of work no matter what the hiring practices of a company are.

Originally Posted by squall line

And Skywest is starting revenue service sooner than Mesa, but both had their first planes delivered at the same time. They are simply on a different schedule. Why burn gas if you don't have to?

Originally Posted by NVUS

SkyWest flew their's all over the place, proving run after proving run. Training flight after training flight. I guess one airline does it right, and another airlines does it as cheaply as possible.

Originally Posted by bedrock

It's great to hear MESA has improved its working conditions, but you've been around long enough to know the history of that place and the statements and actions of Ornstein. He openly despises pilots--that means you. They also made it their goal to be the bottom of the bottom feeders.

You know that we don't operate in a vacuum. When the majors play this musical chairs game with whipsaw we ALL suffer. You are being treated well NOW, because it serves their purpose and they are a renewed airline with low labor costs. Maybe you hit it right, get in, GTFO, don't care about who you fly for. Or maybe MESA will just keep growing as those mainline jobs disappear to be transformed into poorly paid regional jobs.

Meanwhile a great group of guys who have spent most of their careers at Eagle (many due to furlough from AA) are about to be hosed because they refused to set the bar any lower. This also goes for all the other regional pilots who said No Mas!.

Originally Posted by prior121

Your high school accounting teacher would be so proud of that philosophy...

"Since we have them lets go fly them around and waste money!"

Are you kidding me?

Originally Posted by FaceBiter

Remember, not only are we talking about the airline that hired a roid pumping reckless retard as a pilot. This is a company that allows him to hire pilots decreased libido and all. Conventional wisdom does not apply.

Originally Posted by citation35hf

I caution you that since you have clearly stated who this person is, by name, what his current title at Mesa Airlines, INC. is, and by using such statements as "roid pumping reckless retard pilot." This is borderline libel and could be grounds for a defamation lawsuit.
I have seen judges allow internet records to be subpoenaed many times. Just something to keep in mind.

Originally Posted by air101

So its a waste of money to ensure your pilots are properly trained before flying around paying passengers?