Mesa 3.0
#101
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
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In this day and age of open-source/free/easy-to-use predictive modelling software/APIs (Google Predict comes to mind), I find it absolutely insane (from both a company and pilot QOL perspective) that Crew Line is still arbitrarily picking ONE buffer number for every day of the entire month. We all know that holidays, weekends, Super Bowl Sunday, etc. etc. generate more sick calls & absences. We all know that certain months will generate more hub IROPs than others--these are historical facts that an algorithm can account for much more accurately and quickly than a human--and FOR FREE given the current ecosystem of free APIs/software packages.
Also, as an example of how insane our arbitrary buffers are--if an IROP does hit your base, commuters are going to miss segments of their 3/4-day trips. Those segments are going to drop into open time and reduce net reserves, and some reserves are going to miss their reserve periods. An automated reserve-buffer setting system would automatically account for the IROP, sync with Flica, and raise reserve buffers for the next 3-4 days in realtime. THAT would make infinite sense. The way we do it now is a lazy, barbaric "welp looks like we got 14 people on average on reserve next month--set the buffer to 17 for every single day all month long and we'll hope it works out."
Lastly (re: work rules/Crew Line & Tracking practices) I'm just a line pilot, but based on some previous experience in tech/Computer Science in the past few years, I find it absolutely insane that human beings are still manually processing trip trade/drop requests based on easily-programmable 117 paramaters and what (should) be an easily-programmable buffer-setting function. It literally makes me laugh out loud...it's like if a company started a call-center where employees had to call in/submit a request to a human being to calculate things like 2+4 or 5+7. It is literally that absurd.
#103
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 137
Mesa started a Pilot Recruitment Facebook page. Looks like the pilot shortage has finally caught up to them. To be honest, I really do hope you guys get brought up to industry average pay and the pilot group doesn't fall apart. I have a good friend with you in Houston who says he really likes the pilot group, schedule, and hands off management. I'd enjoy the opportunity to live in Houston and the E175 would be a nice bonus, but I can't justify it at $22/hr.
#104
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Joined APC: May 2014
Position: CFI
Posts: 93
The MEC only has the negotiating committee meeting 3 days per month.
#105
Except what they won't do is come up with a realistic proposal to drop in the lap of the MEC. They want to nickel and dime us on Mickey Mouse garbage like paying for KCM. Not even to mention the $10,000+/year pay disparity between us and what our competitors offer, often for flying smaller airplanes. The only thing JO offers is deflection and fantasy.
#106
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Joined APC: May 2014
Position: CFI
Posts: 93
Except what they won't do is come up with a realistic proposal to drop in the lap of the MEC. They want to nickel and dime us on Mickey Mouse garbage like paying for KCM. Not even to mention the $10,000+/year pay disparity between us and what our competitors offer, often for flying smaller airplanes. The only thing JO offers is deflection and fantasy.
I know, I know, there's no money, that pay scale will bankrupt the company, etc. I don't care.
Seriously, when I started here, about 2 years ago, Mesa's FO payscale was only 2/hr less than the industry standard. This was more than compensated by the opportunity to be based where I was already living. Now, there is a 15,000 difference from Mesa to other regionals serving the same hubs.
Today, 35-40K/yr is the market rate for new FOs, Mesa either must meet that or shrink as attrition kicks into high gear. I know plenty of guys who would love to come here, but they can't take a 50% paycut from flying a Kingair and still feed their families.
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#108
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 227
True you didn't. But that's the common theme. To be honest we agree they're far from ideal. And there will always be those who don't believe the stuff we put out and will continue to believe that Mesa doing it on purpose and laughing all the way. I will say productive pairings are the one thing both sides agree on. The staffing model is based on pilots averaging 85 hours. So it's really not saving money to be at 76 hours, it requires MORE bodies and that costs more money. But the reality is that overnight staging, far's and dynamic flight changes from day to day drastically effect how well pairings work out.
When 117 came along. UA had meetings with everyone including all their regionals about what needed to be changed and how the overall picture needed to be changed as a result.
AA (US at the time) said they weren't going to make any marketing changes as a result and it was up to us to figure it out.
That pretty much sums up the two partners.
When 117 came along. UA had meetings with everyone including all their regionals about what needed to be changed and how the overall picture needed to be changed as a result.
AA (US at the time) said they weren't going to make any marketing changes as a result and it was up to us to figure it out.
That pretty much sums up the two partners.
#109
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 688
Compass has several 16-21hr 3 days, 24-28hr 4 days, and 25-36hr 5 days. Oh and there's a large number of those that are commutable on both ends, the rest are on one end. It's very possible to build quality pairings. There were junior captains that had 75-80hrs with 16-18 days off.
#110
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 977
What Sennant meant to say (but is unable to, because he is an ALPA = management lurker) is: "better bases, better flying, better credit rules."
Oh, and he forgot to say: insanely better pay, hotels, and comparable upgrade times to our EJet fleet going forward.
Oh, and he forgot to say: insanely better pay, hotels, and comparable upgrade times to our EJet fleet going forward.
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