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Old 07-20-2016 | 06:36 AM
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What the hell is this?

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Old 07-20-2016 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Cadet pilot program.
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Old 07-20-2016 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by xjtgrunt
Cadet pilot program.
SOOO last week...
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Old 07-20-2016 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 20sx
Has anyone heard that Spirit is grabbing quite a bit of our pilots?
A ton of 175 CAs have gone to Spirit as of recently.....
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Old 07-20-2016 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
A ton of 175 CAs have gone to Spirit as of recently.....
As have a few CRJ FO's
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Old 07-20-2016 | 01:50 PM
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Paying for instructor certs? That's a grey area but they can probably get away with it, not much different than new hire bonuses. It's forward thinking but won't help for at least a year or so down the line, and even then I can't imagine it would create any dramatic influx of pilots.

It's tough because you want management to be in the precarious spot of being unable to recruit so you have negotiating leverage, but you do want your company to succeed too; opportunities for growth always help pilots, and even little things like having the staffing to drop trips is nice.

Real talk: Everyone is having trouble staffing. The regionals with "good" contracts are probably doing better, but they're certainly not exempt from the conditions of the current hiring environment. So it might be disingenuous to say a good contract will suddenly fix staffing woes, though that certainly wouldn't hurt. And I do hope we get a fair, reasonable, and appropriate contract in the near future.

What else can be done?

A desirable base never hurt anyone. Putting some Ejets in Denver would likely net a few pilots, though SkyWest seems to have a death grip on it. Maybe somewhere else.

A concrete flow to a legacy might be the best thing. And none of this Frontier or Spirit stuff. American or United. Or both. If management doesn't want to or can't negotiate better financial terms with our mainline overlords, maybe they could swing flow. It only costs seats in future classes.

There are a lot of small beans items they could do (commuter hotels, company-supplied iPads, etc.), but short of annual retention bonuses I think those are their best options (along with an industry standard or better contract, of course).

Then again, maybe every regional is just waiting for the first failure of another to swallow all their pilots up.
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Old 07-20-2016 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
A ton of 175 CAs have gone to Spirit as of recently.....
I heard 20 out of your base next month.
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Old 07-20-2016 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 20sx
I heard 20 out of your base next month.
Originally Posted by MesaMentor
As have a few CRJ FO's
30 total in June out of Houston.
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Old 07-20-2016 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mjpilot
30 total in June out of Houston.
Are you freaking serious? That's a huge number... Guess I'm going to be used quite a bit now on reserve for even longer now.
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Old 07-21-2016 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mjpilot
30 total in June out of Houston.
I love how anyone can spout any made up number on here and you all believe it.

Mesa doesn't report stats like this of any kind. So were people are getting these numbers should be suspect.

Now, I took last months roster and this months roster and compared them side by side. This is something I do have access to so it's not something pulled out of my ass.

IAH CA went from 177 to 180 (June to July). 6 new Captains came online and 3 left.

IAH FO went from 141 to 154 (June to July). 17 new FO's came online with 4 leaving.

That's a total of 7 pilots from both seats. No where near the 20 or even 30 pro ported. The reality is if Mesa lost 30 pilots out of one base and seat in one month there's be a huge problem.

Anyone got any other goods ones that are totally false?
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