Mesa 3.0
#5201
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[QUOTE=Sennant;2476370]
Sick leave (or paid sick days or sick pay) is time off from work that workers can use to stay home to address their health and safety needs without losing pay. Paid sick leave is a statutory requirement in many nations.
Nowhere in that definition is using it because it’s nice outside and you would rather tan than do your job.
So what do you say to the guy who's got beaucoup sick time accrued and is retiring in a few months. He's using it all up and calling in for every trip. (not making this up, it's actually happening)
Sick time is under "personal accrued time." They don't need to knowing you're sick or taking time for yourself
Sick leave (or paid sick days or sick pay) is time off from work that workers can use to stay home to address their health and safety needs without losing pay. Paid sick leave is a statutory requirement in many nations.
Nowhere in that definition is using it because it’s nice outside and you would rather tan than do your job.
Sick time is under "personal accrued time." They don't need to knowing you're sick or taking time for yourself
#5202
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[QUOTE=MysteriousMrX;2476400]
So what do you say to the guy who's got beaucoup sick time accrued and is retiring in a few months. He's using it all up and calling in for every trip. (not making this up, it's actually happening)
Sick time is under "personal accrued time." They don't need to knowing you're sick or taking time for yourself
Sick time is not personal accrued time. There are airliens that do PTO and lump it all in, that's not what we have. Even our contract states sick time is for sick.
Credited flight time for illness, injury or FRC (Fatigue Review
Committee) substantiated fatigue call shall be deducted from the
pilot's sick leave account.
So what do you say to the guy who's got beaucoup sick time accrued and is retiring in a few months. He's using it all up and calling in for every trip. (not making this up, it's actually happening)
Sick time is under "personal accrued time." They don't need to knowing you're sick or taking time for yourself
Credited flight time for illness, injury or FRC (Fatigue Review
Committee) substantiated fatigue call shall be deducted from the
pilot's sick leave account.
#5203
New Hire
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[QUOTE=Sennant;2476427][QUOTE=MysteriousMrX;2476400]
Sick time is not personal accrued time. There are airliens that do PTO and lump it all in, that's not what we have. Even our contract states sick time is for sick.
Your lack of spelling and care for grammar is appalling, but then your pettiness is even worse. Sick time is time earned. If someone doesn't feel 100% to come in to work, they are not fit for duty. They can and should be able to use their sick time. I can't tell you how many times I've called in sick and then have just been stressed out afterwards that I was going to face some repercussions for it, even though I almost never did. Sick does not necessarily mean throwing up with a 103 degree fever. Pilots are tasked to determine their fitness for duty. We don't get personal time, and while there are people who abuse it, the ridiculous emails from Ian about sick calls need to stop.
Mesa has a staffing problem, but when an email is sent out about how 10 people have called out sick in a single day just from Houston, it's deferring blame on the real issue. 10 pilots is around 2% of the total base. Let's say 20 people call out in a given day, that's roughly 4% of the base. You can't honestly tell me that other airlines don't have a 4% call out rate for one reason or another.
Pilots are human, they have lives, and the fact that Mesa lacks reserve coverage and depends on a 100% attendance rate to fully function as an airline is a lack of proper management. People have limits, whether legal (FAR117) or on a personal basis. Management can scare pilots all they want, but deep down United and American have fully realized this as a staffing problem. Look at Air Wisconsin and Republic operating flights that Mesa used to operate in IAD and Houston. That's not because of pilot sick calls. I have personally called out sick because I hurt my ankle and have received a call from Ian because he thought I was abusing the call. I wasn't coughing or sneezing, but I was not fit to fly. I could barely walk and he threatened me and then accused me of providing a fake doctor's note. The union helped me put a stop to this harassment.
Sick time is not personal accrued time. There are airliens that do PTO and lump it all in, that's not what we have. Even our contract states sick time is for sick.
Your lack of spelling and care for grammar is appalling, but then your pettiness is even worse. Sick time is time earned. If someone doesn't feel 100% to come in to work, they are not fit for duty. They can and should be able to use their sick time. I can't tell you how many times I've called in sick and then have just been stressed out afterwards that I was going to face some repercussions for it, even though I almost never did. Sick does not necessarily mean throwing up with a 103 degree fever. Pilots are tasked to determine their fitness for duty. We don't get personal time, and while there are people who abuse it, the ridiculous emails from Ian about sick calls need to stop.
Mesa has a staffing problem, but when an email is sent out about how 10 people have called out sick in a single day just from Houston, it's deferring blame on the real issue. 10 pilots is around 2% of the total base. Let's say 20 people call out in a given day, that's roughly 4% of the base. You can't honestly tell me that other airlines don't have a 4% call out rate for one reason or another.
Pilots are human, they have lives, and the fact that Mesa lacks reserve coverage and depends on a 100% attendance rate to fully function as an airline is a lack of proper management. People have limits, whether legal (FAR117) or on a personal basis. Management can scare pilots all they want, but deep down United and American have fully realized this as a staffing problem. Look at Air Wisconsin and Republic operating flights that Mesa used to operate in IAD and Houston. That's not because of pilot sick calls. I have personally called out sick because I hurt my ankle and have received a call from Ian because he thought I was abusing the call. I wasn't coughing or sneezing, but I was not fit to fly. I could barely walk and he threatened me and then accused me of providing a fake doctor's note. The union helped me put a stop to this harassment.
#5204
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#5205
Works Weekends & It's OK
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I think you are asking way too much! Just like a post I saw from some guy looking for an unbiased opinion here on APC! Lol!
#5208
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Have their been any captains who've gone from Mesa to a major?
We all know that letter last spring (?) from E.L. spoke the truth: essentially, it doesn't happen.
Why?
Is there really a "Mesa stink" that can only be washed off by going to another regional or a Spirit or Frontier or Atlas, etc?
I'm on the verge of upgrading. I *want* to do the right thing which is to bide your time as FO, upgrade, get your PIC time, and move on. No lateral moves or small step up.
However, I also don't want to be here in 20 years, knowing I painted myself into a corner, and by then it'll be too late (age reason).
I cannot help but think about throwing in an app to Endeavor, or an AA wholly owned, although I think the flow may be fool's gold.
Endeavor captain pay STARTS at what would take me another 10 years to get at Mesa. Plus a guaranteed interview at Delta? Even if that doesn't happen, you at least hear of places like Endeavor and Compass and even GoJet, having people go straight from there to Delta and American and United and even FedEx and UPS. But Mesa?? I've yet to hear of one.
I don't want to have to answer interview questions about why did I leave, etc.. but I also don't want to spend my career as an underpaid lifer......
We all know that letter last spring (?) from E.L. spoke the truth: essentially, it doesn't happen.
Why?
Is there really a "Mesa stink" that can only be washed off by going to another regional or a Spirit or Frontier or Atlas, etc?
I'm on the verge of upgrading. I *want* to do the right thing which is to bide your time as FO, upgrade, get your PIC time, and move on. No lateral moves or small step up.
However, I also don't want to be here in 20 years, knowing I painted myself into a corner, and by then it'll be too late (age reason).
I cannot help but think about throwing in an app to Endeavor, or an AA wholly owned, although I think the flow may be fool's gold.
Endeavor captain pay STARTS at what would take me another 10 years to get at Mesa. Plus a guaranteed interview at Delta? Even if that doesn't happen, you at least hear of places like Endeavor and Compass and even GoJet, having people go straight from there to Delta and American and United and even FedEx and UPS. But Mesa?? I've yet to hear of one.
I don't want to have to answer interview questions about why did I leave, etc.. but I also don't want to spend my career as an underpaid lifer......
#5209
sippin' dat koolaid
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From: gear slinger
I have personally called out sick because I hurt my ankle and have received a call from Ian because he thought I was abusing the call. I wasn't coughing or sneezing, but I was not fit to fly. I could barely walk and he threatened me and then accused me of providing a fake doctor's note. The union helped me put a stop to this harassment.
#5210
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Have their been any captains who've gone from Mesa to a major?
We all know that letter last spring (?) from E.L. spoke the truth: essentially, it doesn't happen.
Why?
Is there really a "Mesa stink" that can only be washed off by going to another regional or a Spirit or Frontier or Atlas, etc?
I'm on the verge of upgrading. I *want* to do the right thing which is to bide your time as FO, upgrade, get your PIC time, and move on. No lateral moves or small step up.
However, I also don't want to be here in 20 years, knowing I painted myself into a corner, and by then it'll be too late (age reason).
I cannot help but think about throwing in an app to Endeavor, or an AA wholly owned, although I think the flow may be fool's gold.
Endeavor captain pay STARTS at what would take me another 10 years to get at Mesa. Plus a guaranteed interview at Delta? Even if that doesn't happen, you at least hear of places like Endeavor and Compass and even GoJet, having people go straight from there to Delta and American and United and even FedEx and UPS. But Mesa?? I've yet to hear of one.
I don't want to have to answer interview questions about why did I leave, etc.. but I also don't want to spend my career as an underpaid lifer......
We all know that letter last spring (?) from E.L. spoke the truth: essentially, it doesn't happen.
Why?
Is there really a "Mesa stink" that can only be washed off by going to another regional or a Spirit or Frontier or Atlas, etc?
I'm on the verge of upgrading. I *want* to do the right thing which is to bide your time as FO, upgrade, get your PIC time, and move on. No lateral moves or small step up.
However, I also don't want to be here in 20 years, knowing I painted myself into a corner, and by then it'll be too late (age reason).
I cannot help but think about throwing in an app to Endeavor, or an AA wholly owned, although I think the flow may be fool's gold.
Endeavor captain pay STARTS at what would take me another 10 years to get at Mesa. Plus a guaranteed interview at Delta? Even if that doesn't happen, you at least hear of places like Endeavor and Compass and even GoJet, having people go straight from there to Delta and American and United and even FedEx and UPS. But Mesa?? I've yet to hear of one.
I don't want to have to answer interview questions about why did I leave, etc.. but I also don't want to spend my career as an underpaid lifer......
Get a 4 year degree. Become a line check airman. If your record is clean, then nothing is going to stop your career progression.
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