Mesa 3.0
#4201
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 21
Here is a sunmary:
CRJ900 and 900 Classic become one payrate after two years. (76/79 seat).
MEC voted it in 7-1 to send to pilots.
200 pay gone, all soft time will be paid at 76 seat rate first two years then 79 seat pay after the payscale merges.
FO pay 36/hr starting.
Actual block or better per flight leg.
Hotel language with short & Long overnights as well as giving the hotel committee control over decisions and forcing the company to maintain a more watchful eye.
Aggressive reserve pickup.
Short Call (2hr), Long Call (12-18hr)
Bidding opens 10th, schedules out 19th.
Layovers of 28 hours or more have 2.0 hours added to the pairing.
Max CRJ 900 CA Pay year 1 of contract is 108.00, max CA pay after 5 years is $114.35
Max FO pay is $52.00 year 1, $53.50 year 5.
People can bid from seat to seat, captains only, only 1% a year, so for 1100 pilots 11 people. Then you are seat locked for 3 years with a 1 year training contract.
Contract increases yearly, on top of structured rate. Raises 6 months before contract ends, and then 1% raise per year until a new contract is settled.
Parking is paid for if you commute.
Commuter clause up to 4x.
Deadhead pay 62.5%
Per diem 1.60 plus $40 a month for iPads in per diem. Goes up by .5c every year on top of CPI.
401k 0-9 years company matches 50% of to 6% of pilot contribution.
10+ years company matches 50% of up to 10% of pilot contribution.
Company must now present buffer numbers to union and reasoning to make sure no unreasonable numbers are attained.
Min guarantee increases from 75.83 to 76
CRJ900 and 900 Classic become one payrate after two years. (76/79 seat).
MEC voted it in 7-1 to send to pilots.
200 pay gone, all soft time will be paid at 76 seat rate first two years then 79 seat pay after the payscale merges.
FO pay 36/hr starting.
Actual block or better per flight leg.
Hotel language with short & Long overnights as well as giving the hotel committee control over decisions and forcing the company to maintain a more watchful eye.
Aggressive reserve pickup.
Short Call (2hr), Long Call (12-18hr)
Bidding opens 10th, schedules out 19th.
Layovers of 28 hours or more have 2.0 hours added to the pairing.
Max CRJ 900 CA Pay year 1 of contract is 108.00, max CA pay after 5 years is $114.35
Max FO pay is $52.00 year 1, $53.50 year 5.
People can bid from seat to seat, captains only, only 1% a year, so for 1100 pilots 11 people. Then you are seat locked for 3 years with a 1 year training contract.
Contract increases yearly, on top of structured rate. Raises 6 months before contract ends, and then 1% raise per year until a new contract is settled.
Parking is paid for if you commute.
Commuter clause up to 4x.
Deadhead pay 62.5%
Per diem 1.60 plus $40 a month for iPads in per diem. Goes up by .5c every year on top of CPI.
401k 0-9 years company matches 50% of to 6% of pilot contribution.
10+ years company matches 50% of up to 10% of pilot contribution.
Company must now present buffer numbers to union and reasoning to make sure no unreasonable numbers are attained.
Min guarantee increases from 75.83 to 76
#4203
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 46
Here is a sunmary:
CRJ900 and 900 Classic become one payrate after two years. (76/79 seat).
MEC voted it in 7-1 to send to pilots.
200 pay gone, all soft time will be paid at 76 seat rate first two years then 79 seat pay after the payscale merges.
FO pay 36/hr starting.
Actual block or better per flight leg.
Hotel language with short & Long overnights as well as giving the hotel committee control over decisions and forcing the company to maintain a more watchful eye.
Aggressive reserve pickup.
Short Call (2hr), Long Call (12-18hr)
Bidding opens 10th, schedules out 19th.
Layovers of 28 hours or more have 2.0 hours added to the pairing.
Max CRJ 900 CA Pay year 1 of contract is 108.00, max CA pay after 5 years is $114.35
Max FO pay is $52.00 year 1, $53.50 year 5.
People can bid from seat to seat, captains only, only 1% a year, so for 1100 pilots 11 people. Then you are seat locked for 3 years with a 1 year training contract.
Contract increases yearly, on top of structured rate. Raises 6 months before contract ends, and then 1% raise per year until a new contract is settled.
Parking is paid for if you commute.
Commuter clause up to 4x.
Deadhead pay 62.5%
Per diem 1.60 plus $40 a month for iPads in per diem. Goes up by .5c every year on top of CPI.
401k 0-9 years company matches 50% of to 6% of pilot contribution.
10+ years company matches 50% of up to 10% of pilot contribution.
Company must now present buffer numbers to union and reasoning to make sure no unreasonable numbers are attained.
Min guarantee increases from 75.83 to 76
CRJ900 and 900 Classic become one payrate after two years. (76/79 seat).
MEC voted it in 7-1 to send to pilots.
200 pay gone, all soft time will be paid at 76 seat rate first two years then 79 seat pay after the payscale merges.
FO pay 36/hr starting.
Actual block or better per flight leg.
Hotel language with short & Long overnights as well as giving the hotel committee control over decisions and forcing the company to maintain a more watchful eye.
Aggressive reserve pickup.
Short Call (2hr), Long Call (12-18hr)
Bidding opens 10th, schedules out 19th.
Layovers of 28 hours or more have 2.0 hours added to the pairing.
Max CRJ 900 CA Pay year 1 of contract is 108.00, max CA pay after 5 years is $114.35
Max FO pay is $52.00 year 1, $53.50 year 5.
People can bid from seat to seat, captains only, only 1% a year, so for 1100 pilots 11 people. Then you are seat locked for 3 years with a 1 year training contract.
Contract increases yearly, on top of structured rate. Raises 6 months before contract ends, and then 1% raise per year until a new contract is settled.
Parking is paid for if you commute.
Commuter clause up to 4x.
Deadhead pay 62.5%
Per diem 1.60 plus $40 a month for iPads in per diem. Goes up by .5c every year on top of CPI.
401k 0-9 years company matches 50% of to 6% of pilot contribution.
10+ years company matches 50% of up to 10% of pilot contribution.
Company must now present buffer numbers to union and reasoning to make sure no unreasonable numbers are attained.
Min guarantee increases from 75.83 to 76
Don't let the union present the the TA the way they want, just randomly post it on APC instead. Cool.
#4206
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 21
That's not a presentation. That's bullets. There's a lot left out. But I don't believe in presenting it one way or another, I just stated bullets and facts. People can listen to the union and together make informed decisions.
#4208
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 21
#4209
I'm glad they're doing this, but it should be immediate. This is one of the less significant areas I'd be willing to meet the company halfway, but again, immediate would be better.
MEC voted it in 7-1 to send to pilots.
200 pay gone, all soft time will be paid at 76 seat rate first two years then 79 seat pay after the payscale merges.
It sucks we had to actually negotiate for this, but the TA would've been DOA without it. Same with KCM.
FO pay 36/hr starting.
This is the minimum I would've accepted as it's at the low end of "industry standard." Still, it makes me uncomfortable that new hire bonuses would be at the company's discretion.
Actual block or better per flight leg.
Hotel language with short & Long overnights as well as giving the hotel committee control over decisions and forcing the company to maintain a more watchful eye.
The specific language will be very important, but hotel improvements are much needed in a lot of places.
Aggressive reserve pickup.
Short Call (2hr), Long Call (12-18hr)
But again, language will be important. Also, is it 12, 18, or both?
Bidding opens 10th, schedules out 19th.
Layovers of 28 hours or more have 2.0 hours added to the pairing.
Yes, it's an improvement over current book, and while pay and hotels were in dire need of fixing, so too is scheduling. We do 3.5 hour sits to do 2 hours of flying some days, and on 30 hour overnights we're not compensated for a whole day away from home. This is a baby step in the right direction but a far cry from the Min Day language we actually need.
Max CRJ 900 CA Pay year 1 of contract is 108.00, max CA pay after 5 years is $114.35
While in a lot of ways the senior guys have made their bed, this still falls below industry average.
Max FO pay is $52.00 year 1, $53.50 year 5.
People can bid from seat to seat, captains only, only 1% a year, so for 1100 pilots 11 people. Then you are seat locked for 3 years with a 1 year training contract.
I don't really have a horse in this race except for wanting us to achieve industry standard, and ability to switch equipment is. So I'm glad it's in there, but 11 people a year is anemic.
Contract increases yearly, on top of structured rate. Raises 6 months before contract ends, and then 1% raise per year until a new contract is settled.
Actual language, rates, and annual increases will be important, and somehow I doubt we'll see 3% COLA, but it's an improvement.
Parking is paid for if you commute.
Commuter clause up to 4x.
Although, I've never cared much about their arbitrary limits that define when you get scolded. If I have to call in 100 times a year because American overbooks every single flight, that's just the way it is.
Deadhead pay 62.5%
Industry standard is 100%. I expected 100%.
Per diem 1.60 plus $40 a month for iPads in per diem. Goes up by .5c every year on top of CPI.
$1.60 isn't amazing but I can accept an additional $40 every month as iPad compensation.
401k 0-9 years company matches 50% of to 6% of pilot contribution.
10+ years company matches 50% of up to 10% of pilot contribution.
10+ years company matches 50% of up to 10% of pilot contribution.
Company must now present buffer numbers to union and reasoning to make sure no unreasonable numbers are attained.
This was another must, but pay attention to language.
Min guarantee increases from 75.83 to 76
If these bullet points are accurate, specific rates and language are necessary to fully assess the agreement, so I'll reserve judgment until Wednesday. From what we're hearing, however, the TA sounds light on Scheduling language. While partially out of the company's control, improved commuter benefits would've been a big plus too.
More than anything, we do need industry standard, and not even just for ourselves. Mesa has put downward pressure on every other regional for far too long, and while most of us had no say in Mesa's affairs prior to 2013, it's on us if we allow that to continue now.
#4210
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 46
I'm not sure your belief in how it should be presented (which is a strange opinion to hold considering how much work went into it) should be considered grounds to leak the bullet points. You must be in a union position to know so much about the agreement, however, considering your disdain for the union's wishes to release on Thursday, I'm not sure you should hold that position. For the next four days, people will pontificate on the bullets with no context from which to judge them. Thursday's release is now totally contaminated.
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