Mesa 3.0
06-13-2017, 05:56 AM
#4242
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"First officers working in their first year will immediately see a 62 percent increase in wages, plus gradual increases over the next four years. More senior first officers will see wages boosted 10 to 37 percent immediately, with gradual increases to follow.
Houston captains will see an immediate 10 to 12 percent raise, with an additional 21 percent increase compared with today's rate during the life of the contract."
Houston captains will see an immediate 10 to 12 percent raise, with an additional 21 percent increase compared with today's rate during the life of the contract."
06-13-2017, 06:10 AM
#4243
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 38
Know the facts
All,
We have already started to see a significant amount of speculation and rumors here on the forums in regards to TA2017. We started this user in order to address ANY and ALL questions in regards to the new TA.
We will be working to address all the questions and/or statements already posted on the forums and continue to monitor activity moving forward.
All we ask is that you take the time to get educated on the REAL facts and ask any question you may have. All the pilots on the committee were part of the pilot group during the last failed TA and we are well aware of the issues during that process. We are here to educate you to enable you to make an informed decision, if you have any questions we will do our best to answer them in a timely manner.
In Unity,
MAG Negotiating Committee
We have already started to see a significant amount of speculation and rumors here on the forums in regards to TA2017. We started this user in order to address ANY and ALL questions in regards to the new TA.
We will be working to address all the questions and/or statements already posted on the forums and continue to monitor activity moving forward.
All we ask is that you take the time to get educated on the REAL facts and ask any question you may have. All the pilots on the committee were part of the pilot group during the last failed TA and we are well aware of the issues during that process. We are here to educate you to enable you to make an informed decision, if you have any questions we will do our best to answer them in a timely manner.
In Unity,
MAG Negotiating Committee
06-13-2017, 06:31 AM
#4245
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 145
Originally Posted by MarciaKolo
I love all these comments...full text document isn't released and people are deciding votes on "rumors" or what a "reliable" source wants you to believe.
I'm a no too. There's no way we should be accepting this crap.
06-13-2017, 06:36 AM
#4246
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 145
Originally Posted by whyvee
"First officers working in their first year will immediately see a 62 percent increase in wages, plus gradual increases over the next four years. More senior first officers will see wages boosted 10 to 37 percent immediately, with gradual increases to follow.
Houston captains will see an immediate 10 to 12 percent raise, with an additional 21 percent increase compared with today's rate during the life of the contract."
Houston captains will see an immediate 10 to 12 percent raise, with an additional 21 percent increase compared with today's rate during the life of the contract."
How is it that every other carrier can offer affordable health insurance and better contract language almost across the board? Mesa can't even be comparative on pay rates when they already have less contract exposure.
06-13-2017, 07:00 AM
#4247
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 38
Originally Posted by Whatmeworry
My question is where was the Mediator during these negotiations? How much of a factor was he/she on the numbers and qol?
06-13-2017, 07:02 AM
#4248
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: ????
Posts: 579
Originally Posted by MAGNegotiations
All,
We have already started to see a significant amount of speculation and rumors here on the forums in regards to TA2017. We started this user in order to address ANY and ALL questions in regards to the new TA.
We will be working to address all the questions and/or statements already posted on the forums and continue to monitor activity moving forward.
All we ask is that you take the time to get educated on the REAL facts and ask any question you may have. All the pilots on the committee were part of the pilot group during the last failed TA and we are well aware of the issues during that process. We are here to educate you to enable you to make an informed decision, if you have any questions we will do our best to answer them in a timely manner.
In Unity,
MAG Negotiating Committee
We have already started to see a significant amount of speculation and rumors here on the forums in regards to TA2017. We started this user in order to address ANY and ALL questions in regards to the new TA.
We will be working to address all the questions and/or statements already posted on the forums and continue to monitor activity moving forward.
All we ask is that you take the time to get educated on the REAL facts and ask any question you may have. All the pilots on the committee were part of the pilot group during the last failed TA and we are well aware of the issues during that process. We are here to educate you to enable you to make an informed decision, if you have any questions we will do our best to answer them in a timely manner.
In Unity,
MAG Negotiating Committee
06-13-2017, 07:06 AM
#4249
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 38
Originally Posted by prior121
Pay decrease for FO's in 3 years?!
Are you $😤€¥#%£ kidding me?!
If that's how management STILL feels after cancelling flights due to LACK OF PILOTS they all need to be out of a job and have their brains examined.
NO!
Are you $😤€¥#%£ kidding me?!
If that's how management STILL feels after cancelling flights due to LACK OF PILOTS they all need to be out of a job and have their brains examined.
NO!
3-A-5 No First Officer will have his hourly pay rate reduced at the conclusion of the interim pay scale or during any extension to that scale. A First Officer will be paid the higher of the interim scale rate or the otherwise applicable scale rate.
Any FO currently on property or hired in within the first 2 years will NOT take a pay cut. There are multiple properties that have First Officer rates that are structured this way, wholly owned properties included. Mesa truly believes that the "shortage" will be over in 2 years, we however call their bluff. If Mesa can't attract and/or retain pilots they won't have a choice but to keep the higher rates, if not increase them further.
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