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Old 04-09-2017, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet View Post
In my heart of hearts the smart play is stomaching it til 1000 TPIC. Jumping to an Airbus or 747 with better pay sounds great, it just needs to wait a few months.
Well I agree, but if your given a job offer at 800 TPIC to go fly a 747 or Airbus, I'd suggest you take it.
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Old 04-09-2017, 09:22 AM
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If we could just make it to JB. That would help too....
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Old 04-09-2017, 09:57 AM
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Maybe someone could write an actual response that explains why Downgrade is "wrong". Consider the account closed, though.
Sure. We will have a response typed up and faxed over to the Crystal Palace in just a few days for you, Paul, and Johnathan to read. Or maybe it's the other way around.
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Old 04-09-2017, 11:50 AM
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Mesa Airlines Announces New Pilot Incentive Program


PHOENIX – April 7, 2017 – Mesa Airlines, Inc. announced today the first location rollout of a new pilot incentive program with the goal of retaining more of these highly-trained professionals as valued employees. Mesa Airlines Executive Vice President Paul Foley stated today that in conjunction with a vendor at Dallas Fort Worth International Airport, he has secured a way to dramatically boost pilot pay under the Work While You Wait program. Foley acknowledged that for decades Mesa has had their flight crews wait up to four hours many times per week between their turns for the day and their last leg out of Dallas. During this time crews only earn $1.50 per hour per diem while lounging around the airport, and often complain that they are grossly underutilized.

“Not anymore on my watch”, says Foley, having secured a ground-breaking temporary employment agreement with the DFW Airport Qdoba at $10 an hour for any pilot. Payroll will be seamless, and pilots don’t need to take off their uniform, just throw on an apron. “Will someone please tell me where in the world can you make 566% more money per hour?” asks Jonathan Ornstein, CEO of Mesa Airlines. “We never expected our pilots to live off our wages, and this opportunity puts them that much closer to financial security plus they get a free burrito. Mesa saves by not having to pay them per diem when they work at Qdoba! This is a win-win for all involved, the pilots, the airline, and the fast food industry.” Pilots who work at least 20 hours per week and are fully qualified in both burrito and quesadilla assembly during both daytime and night, and have demonstrated the ability to operate the deep-fat frier in reduced heat mode without benefit of a QRH, will be eligible for health insurance paid by Qdoba. Pilot applicants will be required to optionally take and pass the TOEFL examination before being allowed to speak with Qdoba customers through a headset.

Dallas Qdoba employee Cindy Snow, a recent GED graduate and resident at the Tarrant County Ramper and Baggage Handler Narcotics Recovery House says, “Sup…is just so cool to be working with these pilots shoulder-to-shoulder, they are so smart with all their training about jets and knowledge of everything else in the world too, and here they are making burritos just like me.” Mesa pilot (First Officer) Roger Murdoch says, “I love flying for American Eagle, proudly operated by Mesa Airlines, but I dread flying five legs for 4:40 of credit. Now I am making six times more money instead of just sitting around in the crew room chatting up the high school girls! Thank you Paul and Jonathan, for your superb leadership in building a great future for all of us at Mesa. Next time you’re in line at Qdoba I’m going to slip you an extra lump of guacamole!”

About Mesa Airlines

A multiple-time recipient of Air Transport World’s Regional Airline of the Year Award, Phoenix-based Mesa Airlines operates as American Eagle from hubs in Phoenix and Dallas/Fort Worth and as United Express from Washington Dulles and Houston. Founded on a mesa in New Mexico in 1982 by Larry and Janie Risley, Mesa currently operates 133 aircraft, with more than 600 daily system departures to 124 cities, 38 states, the District of Columbia, Canada, Mexico, and the Bahamas. The airline will add 17 additional Embraer 175 aircraft to its fleet in 2017. The company has approximately 3,100 employees and is losing about 35 pilots per month, but has plans to hire an additional 1,000 gullible workers in the next two years. For more information, go to Mesa Airlines provides regional air service for American Airlines and US Airways under the American Eagle/US Airways Express brands and for United Airlines under the United Express banner. or visit us on Facebook at www.facebook.com/mesaairlines
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Old 04-09-2017, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3 View Post
Well I agree, but if your given a job offer at 800 TPIC to go fly a 747 or Airbus, I'd suggest you take it.





Stay where you are as a captain because the pile of apps the computer selects most of future pilots is the current qualified 121 Captains ( always some special cases of FOs)
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61 percent from regionals most current 121 Captains , 30 percent military, 5 percent corporate and 4 percent others

Your choice which percentage group you want to be if you want to work for Delta or UAL as per ALPA records for 2016 new hires given by HR to ALPA
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Old 04-09-2017, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66 View Post
Stay where you are as a captain because the pile of apps the computer selects most of future pilots is the current qualified 121 Captains ( always some special cases of FOs)
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61 percent from regionals most current 121 Captains , 30 percent military, 5 percent corporate and 4 percent others

Your choice which percentage group you want to be if you want to work for Delta or UAL as per ALPA records for 2016 new hires given by HR to ALPA
Good, that aught to shut up the few that think PIC is not as important anymore!
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Old 04-09-2017, 03:00 PM
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Equipping the planes makes it tough to update the iPads. JB gives us all iPad air 2s and we have about 20 custom apps (in our own app store, not in the apple app store) on it. We have our own version of Jepp FD, WSI for weather, and my mobile 365 for all pubs and training. I like the way these are managed for the most part. We can also put our own stuff on it and it is no big deal. I still carry the iPad I had at Mesa on some trips and/or a laptop for various reasons. I kind of wish JB would just give us $500 for an iPad every few years and have it be our own and not monitored by them, but with as much crap as we have on it, it needs to be managed by them.
That seems to be what the majority of carriers are doing. Not that updating is a huge deal, but it would be cool not to worry about it and let mechanics check them every 72 hour or something. Still, you're right, it is nice having it on overnights to read, email, or watch Netflix.

If Mesa is giving new hires $500 for iPads, they should just give everyone $500 for ipads every 3-5 years. Or do a $100 per year iPad replacement payment. Or just give every pilot an iPad in a bulk buy. Lose it or break it...its on you. But at least in that case they gave you one that works and will be supported until the next one comes out. Wouldn't cost that much money. But, that's Mesa for you.
Bingo, agree wholeheartedly.

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Stay where you are as a captain because the pile of apps the computer selects most of future pilots is the current qualified 121 Captains ( always some special cases of FOs)
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61 percent from regionals most current 121 Captains , 30 percent military, 5 percent corporate and 4 percent others

Your choice which percentage group you want to be if you want to work for Delta or UAL as per ALPA records for 2016 new hires given by HR to ALPA
Interesting, thanks for the tidbit. I wonder how much of it is less overall pilots at LCC's vs a preference for regionals since legacies might be afraid of cannibalizing their own feed. Or maybe they prefer poaching from the competitors'. Hard to say. Nonetheless, thanks for the statistics. While we're at it, recently came across these AA hiring stats. Still not looking good for OTS civilians.
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Old 04-09-2017, 07:59 PM
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2017's hiring numbers for AA will be pretty similar to 2016's (750 forecast vs 728 actual). The big thing to keep in mind is the 200 from the Recall list were the last of the furloughed TWA pilots. This year there will be 200+ more Flows, OTS and Mil, some combination.
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Old 04-10-2017, 06:09 AM
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Good, that aught to shut up the few that think PIC is not as important anymore!
Current captain I'm with said what another recently said: either the new training department is a lot tougher than before, or because they're so desperate for FOs, they're seat locking them by failing upgrade. Several more recentlty failed- over pretty petty questions/scenarios.
Meanwhile at DFW, just did a trip with 3 different captains, all on loan from IAD, and many IAH flight attendants working DFW. And CC gone. And every FO I've talked to has been JRA, myself included. And called on days off for extra work. But, I'm sure everything is "fine" LOL
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Old 04-10-2017, 06:27 AM
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Last month somebody posted a link to where you could see the cancelled flights for Mesa in March. I think it might have been on FlightAware. I'm curious to see the totals for April so far. I've been seeing at least 3 or 4 cancelled per day up on the board it seems, and that's just for DFW. I've heard that IAH has been having a lot too.

I seem to remember the March total being somewhere around 31. Based on what I've been seeing and hearing, I would expect that number to be well over 100 for April. If anybody knows how to get that info could you please post a link?
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