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Old 04-14-2017, 11:12 AM
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Good feeling isn't it?
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:19 PM
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FA's don't really have any leverage, their high turn over rate and bountiful supply of young people enamored with the idea of being a FA, seals their fate.
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Old 04-14-2017, 08:02 PM
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Ever fly a Mesa CRJ that had a dirty sock smell? I did. Think it's just dirty pack filters? That's what I thought. Could be a health hazard, not just a nuisance smell. Write it up. And keep writing it up. The following is from our MEC at a different ALPA carrier:

The dangers of cockpit fumes has recently taken on a new level of seriousness as one of our pilots has been exposed to these dangerous fumes. In January, Captain Xxxxx Xxxxx was exposed to fumes while performing an engine run up at the request of maintenance. As a result of the fumes event, Xxxx has had numerous health problems, been out on medical leave for months, and may never return to the flight deck. We would ask that you keep Captain Xxxxx in your thoughts and prayers.

The "dirty sock" smell you may have experienced while operating an aircraft is not a normal condition that just requires a change of pack air conditioning filters. Despite what we may have believed to be a common and dismissible occurrence, this can actually indicate the presence of turbine oil fumes in the bleed system. Be aware of your flight environment and pay particular attention to fumes coming from the vents. Listen to the reports from your flight attendants, follow the latest airline operating procedures, and consider donning oxygen if you suspect bleed air contamination. The potential for pilots to breathe oil fumes on board containing various toxic chemicals, including tricresyl phosphates (TCPs) and carbon monoxide (CO), has been recognized as a crew health and flight safety hazard in military and commercial circles since the 1950s.

We received a recent report via the PDR system where a crew wrote up the aircraft for fumes (related to the dirty socks smell) and that aircraft was taken out of service. When you are asked to perform a maintenance related function, such as an engine run up, we would caution you to carefully review the aircraft logbook and understand exactly the parameters that are being tested and verified.

Your MEC and Central Air Safety committee have been working with management to reduce this hazardous risk to our health.
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Old 04-14-2017, 08:14 PM
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The dangers of cockpit fumes has recently taken on a new level of seriousness as one of our pilots has been exposed to these dangerous fumes. In January, Captain Xxxxx Xxxxx was exposed to fumes while performing an engine run up at the request of maintenance. As a result of the fumes event, Xxxx has had numerous health problems, been out on medical leave for months, and may never return to the flight deck. We would ask that you keep Captain Xxxxx in your thoughts and prayers...
Was that on the e190 or the bus?
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Old 04-14-2017, 08:18 PM
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Was that on the e190 or the bus?
Think it was the bus.
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
Think it was the bus.
The ALPA guy that handles this stuff is a Spirit CA, former K4 pilot. I was on his jump seat and got an education. You CRJ guys have it really bad. Numerous times I have smelled that smell. It's synthetic turbine oil getting into the airpacks, atomizing, breaking down into highly carcinogenic particles. That brown ring around your collar is that crap thats in your body, coming out in the sweat.
Sorry, I can't help but think about Pat G. And what happened to him.
On another note, this Alpa CA said that they tried to work with Mesa, but hit a brick wall. Something you need to bring up to AH and demand answers.
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Old 04-15-2017, 05:26 AM
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That brown ring around your collar is that crap thats in your body, coming out in the sweat.

Such pseudoscience BS.
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:23 AM
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Ever notice how the numbers in the grid mysteriously go from being seriously negative to zero (or even slightly positive) after that day has passed? So, what are they doing ... cancelling flights then calling it 'good'?
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Old 04-15-2017, 09:06 AM
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I think they're just going down the list til people accept Junior Available assignments. In a list of 80-200 people, there'll always be someone who'll take it. That's my theory, anyway.

Edit: Also, a lot of open time can get assigned to the same person. For example, you got an individual turn that ends at 5pm and another individual trip that just goes to an overnight at 6pm - they can get assigned to the same reservist. They SHOULD just consolidate those to begin with, which would help out the reserve grid, but of course they don't.
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Old 04-15-2017, 02:18 PM
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Such pseudoscience BS.
Think what you want, I don't get that brown stuff on the 747. After all, it's your butt in that CRJ, not mine.
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