WisJudge

No need for the personal attacks. We each have reasons for being at Mesa and then moving on when the time is right, or not as the case may be. We all know Mesa is transient for most, no need to rehash this for the umpteenth time. I'm pleased you've moved on. Congratulations. Be gracious in your success, you'll earn more respect.

deltajuliet

It might be rationalizing, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to leave while accruing that 1000TPIC. We went over this a few pages ago and you even agreed. And while it's been hashed out about a thousand times, the 2013-2014 timeframe had us only marginally below the other regionals. Bases were mostly desirable (from ORD and living in PHX? No brainer). Eagle was on the verge of getting shut down and Endeavor-style retention bonuses were non-existent. Flow throughs? Not a thing. Did Mesa have a reputation? Sure. JO was being stingy for paying us $3 less an hour. The disparity now isn't the same ballpark, it's not the same league, it's not even the same sport. I'm out like trout the second I hit a thousand, and until then I'm doing everything in my power to help force a reasonable TA. Fly the contract, nothing more, nothing less.

121again

No Land 3 you might mean well but you come across as a total DB. You know the guy who goes back to his old High School to brag about all the college tail he's getting? Or the brand new regional FO who goes back to his flight school wearing his airline uniform? You're being that guy.

BeatNavy

Anyone in the left seat accruing PIC time and associated pay would be silly to move to another regional in many cases. And getting on at a LCC/ULCC isn't always financially viable depending on your situation. Cargo isn't all that attractive of an option to most with families and many in general. But most of my captain friends at Mesa are trying to get out. They aren't part of the problem. Not everyone can just leave at the drop of a hat. Easy to say when you've left. A lot easier said than done for those still there.

word302

You guys say this constantly. Maybe if you were only looking at pay rates. Mesa's overall compensation has ALWAYS lagged WAY behind the rest of the industry. One of the first things I learned when researching the industry back in 2009 was that Mesa was the bottom of the barrel and should be avoided at all costs. Rationalize all you want. You made your bed, now you get to sleep in it.

Sumtinwong

The union is failing Us in this respect. They should create a website that compares Mesa pay and all of our benefits against our competition. They should also go to job fairs and hand out cards with the website address on it so anybody who's interested in Mesa can see a factual and accurate comparison of what they can expect here. Recruiting isn't giving all the details so that applicants can make informed decisions, why would they. It would also compare upgrade times at Mesa against the competition. Add in the recent contracts signed by some 50 seat operators that Mesa say is failing.

These new hires don't have all the information. The only way they can find out the specifics of how these operations work is either come to this website, or Word of Mouth. There is too much misinformation and antics on this site to be a reliable source. The union needs to take the reigns and inform.

No Land 3

Yeh, you're all correct. I'll shut up about it.

Sniper66

747 pay ? 100 bucks ? Second year pay ? Way cheap bro.... check airlinepilotcetral what your pay should be

If you only knew where I work and what I fly and what is the pay, days off and A and B fund and profit sharing .......
But hey keep bashing the RJ drivers and telling them how smart you are to go to Kallita Sean.......little kids do that

You work for peanuts my friend, for peanuts.
BTW don't ever forget where you learn to fly for 14 dollars per hour on the B1900

Good luck at Ypsilanti with the major international cargo gorilla

No Land 3

I am probably not who you think I am.
Way cheap? It's the highest paying first year FO position, and 7th overall. So you're either at Delta, Fed Ex, or UPS.
I'd still rather be at K4

minimwage4

I won't go to Kalitta because they have that stupid geriatric logo and colors. If they change that to something more sleek I'll go