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01-10-2018, 04:57 PM
#5381
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Position: DFW CRJ CA
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Wow! A CA told me the reason they were opening an ATL base is that Mesa will not open a IAD Ejet base because Mesa has to allow all the IAD CRJ pilots come over to the Ejet. And, Mesa can’t do that or they would lose all of the current IAD CRJ pilots as they move over to the Ejet.
All I know is if it weren’t for the CRJ crews in IAD we would be in much worse hot water with United. The IAD CRJ crews covered tons of our Ejet flights. Too bad we are just livestock for Mesa and they don’t try to make our lives a little better.
Based on the pilots I have spoken to from the East coast, ATL will be a senior base. Tons of guys planning to bid for it.
All I know is if it weren’t for the CRJ crews in IAD we would be in much worse hot water with United. The IAD CRJ crews covered tons of our Ejet flights. Too bad we are just livestock for Mesa and they don’t try to make our lives a little better.
Based on the pilots I have spoken to from the East coast, ATL will be a senior base. Tons of guys planning to bid for it.
IF 175's were put into IAD AND IAD CLOSED as a CRJ base, then yes you could bid across in order to stay in base. Think CLT 145 and IAH 900 base years ago.
But that plan continues to put into discussion something that isn't happening, namely the removal of the 700 from IAD. Now maybe when the contract is up on those aircraft in a couple of years they will actually go somewhere. Until then, just like the rumor that we're leaving DFW (been in place since about a month after opening DFW) there's no truth and no backing.
01-10-2018, 05:40 PM
#5382
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Originally Posted by MagPBS
That's a massive over-simplification of the ruleset.
IF 175's were put into IAD AND IAD CLOSED as a CRJ base, then yes you could bid across in order to stay in base. Think CLT 145 and IAH 900 base years ago.
But that plan continues to put into discussion something that isn't happening, namely the removal of the 700 from IAD. Now maybe when the contract is up on those aircraft in a couple of years they will actually go somewhere. Until then, just like the rumor that we're leaving DFW (been in place since about a month after opening DFW) there's no truth and no backing.
IF 175's were put into IAD AND IAD CLOSED as a CRJ base, then yes you could bid across in order to stay in base. Think CLT 145 and IAH 900 base years ago.
But that plan continues to put into discussion something that isn't happening, namely the removal of the 700 from IAD. Now maybe when the contract is up on those aircraft in a couple of years they will actually go somewhere. Until then, just like the rumor that we're leaving DFW (been in place since about a month after opening DFW) there's no truth and no backing.
01-10-2018, 05:49 PM
#5383
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Originally Posted by MagPBS
That's a massive over-simplification of the ruleset.
IF 175's were put into IAD AND IAD CLOSED as a CRJ base, then yes you could bid across in order to stay in base. Think CLT 145 and IAH 900 base years ago.
But that plan continues to put into discussion something that isn't happening, namely the removal of the 700 from IAD. Now maybe when the contract is up on those aircraft in a couple of years they will actually go somewhere. Until then, just like the rumor that we're leaving DFW (been in place since about a month after opening DFW) there's no truth and no backing.
IF 175's were put into IAD AND IAD CLOSED as a CRJ base, then yes you could bid across in order to stay in base. Think CLT 145 and IAH 900 base years ago.
But that plan continues to put into discussion something that isn't happening, namely the removal of the 700 from IAD. Now maybe when the contract is up on those aircraft in a couple of years they will actually go somewhere. Until then, just like the rumor that we're leaving DFW (been in place since about a month after opening DFW) there's no truth and no backing.
01-10-2018, 09:58 PM
#5384
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Originally Posted by MagPBS
That's a massive over-simplification of the ruleset.
IF 175's were put into IAD AND IAD CLOSED as a CRJ base, then yes you could bid across in order to stay in base. Think CLT 145 and IAH 900 base years ago.
But that plan continues to put into discussion something that isn't happening, namely the removal of the 700 from IAD. Now maybe when the contract is up on those aircraft in a couple of years they will actually go somewhere. Until then, just like the rumor that we're leaving DFW (been in place since about a month after opening DFW) there's no truth and no backing.
IF 175's were put into IAD AND IAD CLOSED as a CRJ base, then yes you could bid across in order to stay in base. Think CLT 145 and IAH 900 base years ago.
But that plan continues to put into discussion something that isn't happening, namely the removal of the 700 from IAD. Now maybe when the contract is up on those aircraft in a couple of years they will actually go somewhere. Until then, just like the rumor that we're leaving DFW (been in place since about a month after opening DFW) there's no truth and no backing.
01-11-2018, 11:52 AM
#5385
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
The observation about American flying that can be noticed is we aren’t expanding our American flying. Envoy is picking up routes from both ExpressJet and us out of DFW. Compass is doing the Ejet out of PHX for American. When do the CRJ’s come off of contract with American?
01-11-2018, 11:54 AM
#5386
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Then, exactly why does ATL make sense? Is this to replace our trips to OKC and ELP for maintenance?
It's an east coast base for recruiting to advertise.
ATL has enough flights to make it work.
#2 is the main reason.
01-11-2018, 11:55 AM
#5387
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Originally Posted by Santos Dumont
He did oversimplify and misspoke, but your response wasn't any better. Since you brought it up on a public forum, do you mind sharing what happened with that CRJ900 base in IAH for America West/U.S. Airways? It is my understanding that if the company has a dual equipment base (two bases in the same city) and one of those bases closes, those pilots have the option to transfer to the other equipment to remain based in that city. Was the company staffing the CLT CRJ flying out of IAH while they were reducing the CLT 145 flying so that CLT 145 pilots couldn't transfer to the CRJ, thus eliminating non-essential training events?
01-11-2018, 05:21 PM
#5388
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Originally Posted by MagPBS
ATL is a crossover base. IAD-ATL-IAH and IAH-ATL-IAD.
It's an east coast base for recruiting to advertise.
ATL has enough flights to make it work.
#2 is the main reason.
It's an east coast base for recruiting to advertise.
ATL has enough flights to make it work.
#2 is the main reason.
Plus, we are the only regional in ATL with an Ejet option. That will help with recruiting.
What is going on with the training department? I see those guys flying the line now.
01-11-2018, 05:34 PM
#5389
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
That is what I thought. I suspect we will see an increase in flights into ATL for maintenance versus close to empty flights into OKC or ELP. The traffic to ATL in the United system has to allow for some offloading off of mainline to increase our flights.
Plus, we are the only regional in ATL with an Ejet option. That will help with recruiting.
What is going on with the training department? I see those guys flying the line now.
Plus, we are the only regional in ATL with an Ejet option. That will help with recruiting.
What is going on with the training department? I see those guys flying the line now.
01-11-2018, 06:50 PM
#5390
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Originally Posted by MagPBS
Anyone who’s qualified is flying the line right now. ALPA. Management. Instructors. Etc.
There has to be enough 65 year old type rated pilots to keep the training department going. Or, Flight Safety or CAE.
This feels like we are in a coffin corner and don’t know how to get out of it.
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