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Old 04-14-2018 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Idontevenfly
It was a CRJ class, and all stages, Oral and Sims.
And, people were shown the door? They weren’t afforded additional training and then given the oral again or the stage again?

As for SIMs, I could see that more than any other stage. Either you have basic flying skills and can play a hyped up video game (the sim) well, or not. If you can’t figure out the sim after a couple of sessions in it, a new hire is just wasting everyone’s time and Mesa a bunch of money.
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Old 04-14-2018 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Everyone thinks they are “Top Gun” in aviation until they get their ass handed to them. The good ones take it as a lesson learned and make sure it never happens again. The bad ones throw hissy fits. Aviation has humbled me every time my ego got too big for its own good.
Yep. A new hire in my class with a bad attitude went into his oral having not seriously studied. His ass was handed to him. He threw a hissy fit and quit indignantly. I am just surprised at this story of 4 out of 15 being “fired” at all stages of CRJ training. No one in my class was “fired”. What 121 operation hires someone who was “fired” by Mesa during training?
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Old 04-14-2018 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
And, people were shown the door? They weren’t afforded additional training and then given the oral again or the stage again?

As for SIMs, I could see that more than any other stage. Either you have basic flying skills and can play a hyped up video game (the sim) well, or not. If you can’t figure out the sim after a couple of sessions in it, a new hire is just wasting everyone’s time and Mesa a bunch of money.
Oh no, they were given the extra chances, in the oral I know that person got around 2 or 3 chances. And the ones in the sim definitely got more sims and fair chances. Actually relieving to see them draw the line honestly.
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Old 04-14-2018 | 11:45 AM
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Anyone have advice on studying before my class date? I don’t want to become a statistic so any advice would help. Should I have all of the cbt modules completed?
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Old 04-14-2018 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Idontevenfly
Oh no, they were given the extra chances, in the oral I know that person got around 2 or 3 chances. And the ones in the sim definitely got more sims and fair chances. Actually relieving to see them draw the line honestly.
They did start to be stricter with the ‘extras’ right after the management changes this year. I saw guys I never expected to have a problem get shown the door. It should not be a hard and fast number (which is 3), and should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. Otherwise they are going to be spending even more money on training in the long run. But remember Mesa is cheap, not smart.
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Old 04-14-2018 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Hhoffman
Anyone have advice on studying before my class date? I don’t want to become a statistic so any advice would help. Should I have all of the cbt modules completed?
Be ready for a lot of self-studying once you get the material. You basically have to teach yourself here, especially during the sims. It totally depends on which instructor you get.
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Old 04-14-2018 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by journey2
Be ready for a lot of self-studying once you get the material. You basically have to teach yourself here, especially during the sims. It totally depends on which instructor you get.
I have the cbt and study guide. Should I have all of that down before I show up? I know there is a limitations test when you get there. I suppose it won’t hurt to have studied it all.
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Old 04-14-2018 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Hhoffman
I have the cbt and study guide. Should I have all of that down before I show up? I know there is a limitations test when you get there. I suppose it won’t hurt to have studied it all.
Unless they’ve recently changed it, the first test you get is the Indoc test. Limitations questions would be in your Systems test.
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Old 04-15-2018 | 09:28 AM
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Just for fun, here's pilots by base over the last two years. Since SDF is basically DFW flying, they're combined for more accurate comparison.

DFW/SDF

April 2018 - 133 CA, 119 FO
April 2017 - 177 CA, 124 FO
May 2016 - 187 CA, 150 FO

IAD

April 2018 - 67 CA, 42 FO
April 2017 - 84 CA, 61 FO
May 2016 - 89 CA, 72 FO

IAH

April 2018 - 208 CA, 179 FO
April 2017 - 198 CA, 165 FO
May 2016 - 173 CA, 134 FO

PHX

April 2018 - 85 CA, 85 FO
April 2017 - 89 CA, 74 FO
May 2016 - 100 CA, 83 FO


Total active pilots by each snapshot...

2018 - 918 (6.33 pilots/aircraft)
2017 - 972
2016 - 988
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Old 04-15-2018 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Just for fun, here's pilots by base over the last two years. Since SDF is basically DFW flying, they're combined for more accurate comparison.

DFW/SDF

April 2018 - 133 CA, 119 FO
April 2017 - 177 CA, 124 FO
May 2016 - 187 CA, 150 FO

IAD

April 2018 - 67 CA, 42 FO
April 2017 - 84 CA, 61 FO
May 2016 - 89 CA, 72 FO

IAH

April 2018 - 208 CA, 179 FO
April 2017 - 198 CA, 165 FO
May 2016 - 173 CA, 134 FO

PHX

April 2018 - 85 CA, 85 FO
April 2017 - 89 CA, 74 FO
May 2016 - 100 CA, 83 FO


Total active pilots by each snapshot...

2018 - 918 (6.33 pilots/aircraft)
2017 - 972
2016 - 988
No wonder we have Ejets sitting and not flying. We were supposed to add 10 aircraft in the last half of last year, but we only added 24 net additional pilots.

It won’t take long before Republic or SkyWest starts flying the Ejets we have. I haven’t seen anything about ATL lately. Is ATL really going to happen? None of the lead up to the SDF base.
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