AF/Airline collaboration??
04-11-2017, 09:41 AM
#31
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What's the process to even establish a stop loss for active duty? How long could it be in effect? I know the reserves had one last year (at least for pilots) but it was maybe only a year long.
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04-11-2017, 09:57 AM
#32
Get me outta here...
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: Boeing right seat
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Stop Loss?? Good luck! Gen Everhart is bluffing, or needs to be tested for smoking crack.
They will get pummeled by Congress if they try it. Never mind the long term effects that will overshadow the near-term "success" in keeping pilots.
They will get pummeled by Congress if they try it. Never mind the long term effects that will overshadow the near-term "success" in keeping pilots.
04-11-2017, 10:35 AM
#33
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 324
Originally Posted by HuggyU2
Stop Loss?? Good luck! Gen Everhart is bluffing, or needs to be tested for smoking crack.
They will get pummeled by Congress if they try it. Never mind the long term effects that will overshadow the near-term "success" in keeping pilots.
They will get pummeled by Congress if they try it. Never mind the long term effects that will overshadow the near-term "success" in keeping pilots.
04-11-2017, 11:13 AM
#34
Not a real airline pilot
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Position: Cargo > Pax
Posts: 365
What effect (if any) does Stop Loss have on ARC members? Would a TR suddenly not be able to go IRR or simply quit? I realize that AD members simply cannot get out until the Stop Loss is over...anyone have experience with being a part timer care to share?
04-11-2017, 11:39 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by DirtyPurple
What effect (if any) does Stop Loss have on ARC members? Would a TR suddenly not be able to go IRR or simply quit? I realize that AD members simply cannot get out until the Stop Loss is over...anyone have experience with being a part timer care to share?
Yeah, so I went from being a TR pilot to a category E reservist (non flying and points only). I couldn't switch over to that last year until after November 1 because of a stop loss in ARC... I don't even know when it started and the only reason I knew about it was because it delayed my transition to category E last April.
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04-11-2017, 12:51 PM
#36
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Originally Posted by awakenedpilot
Yeah, so I went from being a TR pilot to a category E reservist (non flying and points only). I couldn't switch over to that last year until after November 1 because of a stop loss in ARC... I don't even know when it started and the only reason I knew about it was because it delayed my transition to category E last April.
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04-11-2017, 01:12 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by Tanker-driver
That wasn't even a "real" stop loss. That was all based on a bs "loss management" memo put out by the AFRC/CC. I'd expect those types of shenanigans to continue.
True... but it kept myself and others from being able to switch over. Pulled the wool over everyone's eyes- no one even questioned the seriousness of that memo. Funny how that works!
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04-11-2017, 04:45 PM
#38
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Originally Posted by Tanker-driver
That wasn't even a "real" stop loss. That was all based on a bs "loss management" memo put out by the AFRC/CC. I'd expect those types of shenanigans to continue.
Oh and btw....IT'S BACK! We just got the memo for this year. November 1st, retro to April 1st for affected dates in status change. I.e. Those with retire papers/transfers before 1 April will be allowed to go through. Otherwise, the ARPC office is gone fishin' for you until 1 Nove. Yeah buddy!
04-11-2017, 04:59 PM
#39
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Trust me, I know. I was one of those transitioning TRs. No concern whatsoever from leadership from the squadron level on up. I had a couple replies from my senior senator, but that stopped when she consulted some senate liaison who told her it was all on the up and up. Bottom line, I think the AF can do this and no one will care except those affected. Take care of number 1 folks. No one is looking out for you. Doing the right thing by your people went by the wayside a while ago in the AF
