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11-07-2017 | 03:13 AM
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Don't get hung up on semantics. They're still paid considerably less than field grade officers, which is to say it makes civilian pay even better than from the vantage point of an FGO. And that IS the point, whether it offends people's sensitivities or not. The lack of traction regarding WO flyers in the AF boils down to $$$ and rational economic incentives, and not organizational minutiae between commissioned vs warrant like the army.
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11-07-2017 | 03:17 AM
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An O4 doesn't make $2000 more than a W4 with same TIG. Pay difference is about $900 bucks (20 year comparison). Flight pay is the same WO or RLO in the Army.
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11-07-2017 | 03:21 AM
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I have been in the USAR since 1991. Even though USAR aviation is slightly smaller now as compared to 1991 the level of command structure has increased 300%. It's ludicrous and talk about fraud, waste, and abuse...
11-07-2017 | 03:54 AM
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I have a friend who went back on active duty after retiring and it was a great deal. He was hired by Continental and was a first officer on the 737, junior, on reserve in Newark, and making squat the first couple of years. He went on extended military leave for a few years, got a big pay raise, didn't have to put up with being low man on the totem pole, added to his retirement, and came back to work for United, not junior, making big bucks plus a bigger retirement. Sometimes it takes a while for the grass to really be greener on the other side of the fence.
22 years of aviation service is when flight pay (ACIP) starts to go down.
11-07-2017 | 04:14 AM
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A LOT has changed since your friend went back on AD. Ops tempo is through the roof, morale is through the floor, more with less is out of control and the idea that we should all be choir boys has taken a strong hold. I've been in the ANG over 17 years and the change has been dramatic in the last 6-9 years. Couple that with the fact that I take a MASSIVE paycut when I have to go on orders, I doubt you'll see many takers. I think this is just a step in the direction of stop loss.
22 years of aviation service is when flight pay (ACIP) starts to go down.
22 years of aviation service is when flight pay (ACIP) starts to go down.
11-07-2017 | 05:39 AM
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Not denying any of that, but starting airline pay is also a helluv a lot better than it used to be. Wasnt Continental $30, and had to wait 6 months to get health insurance?
11-07-2017 | 06:52 AM
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11-07-2017 | 07:15 AM
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CW3 is really a field officer grade?
