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Old 02-06-2010 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BDGERJMN
On a side note I find it humorous(I'm Navy by the way) that a Navy guy who had presumably shared a 4 man or 8 man on the boat would complain about sharing a room for a weekend.
With that argument, let's give up all entitlements. No grievances allowed because you could be on a ship.

In the Navy, we tend to have an attitude of we will take what they give us. It's one thing to complain about what we think we should have, and another for what you are legally entitled to.

BTW, I live close to my drill location so it's not a factor for me. I'll looking out for our people who don't. (Most of them were P-3 guys and don't even know what a boat is.)

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Old 02-06-2010 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by S3toHerk
With that argument, let's give up all entitlements. No grievances allowed because you could be on a ship.

In the Navy, we tend to have an attitude of we will take what they give us. It's one thing to complain about what we think we should have, and another for what you are legally entitled to.

BTW, I live close to my drill location so it's not a factor for me. I'll looking out for our people who don't. (Most of them were P-3 guys and don't even know what a boat is.)

Knowledge is power.

I'm with you, and don't disagree, I'm just saying I dont think(I'm probably in the minority here) that an increase in rank means I shouldn't have to double up if the base or command required it. I also don't think you're 'legally' entitled to anything in terms of who you live with. Just not a big deal in the grand scheme of things IMHO.
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Old 02-06-2010 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by HercDriver130
Not always true.... I work at an ANG Combat Rediness Training Center where whe have 450 rooms. when units come in for training at our facility only O-5s and above and E8s and above are single billeted. Now.. if you are a transient air crew you will be single billeted. But for training.. or drill weekends... double up.
That is normal and within Regs. Units "deploying" to the CRTC are under "Field Conditions" as stated earlier.
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Old 02-06-2010 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BDGERJMN
I'm with you, and don't disagree, I'm just saying I dont think(I'm probably in the minority here) that an increase in rank means I shouldn't have to double up if the base or command required it. I also don't think you're 'legally' entitled to anything in terms of who you live with. Just not a big deal in the grand scheme of things IMHO.
The question is why is the base or command requiring the double up? Is space not physically available (like at Iwo), or is there plenty of space and the command simply trying to save a buck for somebody's fitrep? How big of a deal it is in the grand scheme of things is in the eye of the beholder, and that's why the sentence is ended with IMHO.

Thanks for the discussion. I am coming to the conclusion that there must not be a minimum entitlement for lodging, at least in the Navy. Either that or nobody know's where it's written.

Thanks.
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Old 02-06-2010 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by S3toHerk
I googled AFI, and I think that is only for the Air Force. I also looked through the JFTR and didn't come up with anything.
Aaah sorry - I thought you were an AF Herk guy.....I doubt the NAvy has any reg comparable. The AFI dictates size, etc for rank groups.
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Old 02-06-2010 | 05:14 PM
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I spent a year in Kabul on a cot in a conex box with a door and a window with one other guy (he had his own cot). I think the standards have been lowered since the good ole days.

I'm pretty sure the JFTR doesn't care about an O4. It'll be up to your command and the local base regs as to what you are "entitled."
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Old 02-06-2010 | 08:13 PM
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I spent a year in Kabul on a cot in a conex box with a door and a window with one other guy (he had his own cot). I think the standards have been lowered since the good ole days.
Operational necessity, I've slept under a bush or in a ditch more times than I care to recall. But there's no excuse for it in CONUS, in garrison.
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Old 02-06-2010 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dtfl
Aaah sorry - I thought you were an AF Herk guy.....I doubt the NAvy has any reg comparable. The AFI dictates size, etc for rank groups.
Yes we do, it's the same regs for all services and it includes GS civilians of comparable rank. The navy reserve just decided the rules didn't apply to them
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Old 02-07-2010 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Yes we do, it's the same regs for all services and it includes GS civilians of comparable rank. The navy reserve just decided the rules didn't apply to them
Interesting Rick, I'm a GS and a Navy Reservist, don't recall reading or being told there were standards of living that as either, I was entitled to. Do you have a link for this instruction or are you referring to the JFTR?
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Old 02-07-2010 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BDGERJMN
Interesting Rick, I'm a GS and a Navy Reservist, don't recall reading or being told there were standards of living that as either, I was entitled to. Do you have a link for this instruction or are you referring to the JFTR?
HA! I knew it! BDGERJMN changed from "I find it humorous to complain" to "It's not a big deal" to "do you have a link for this intruction" in a matter of 11 posts!

Welcome to the dark side! Next thing you know he will join a union!
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