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04-03-2010, 07:42 PM
#382
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Originally Posted by Grumble
TM vs Chuck Norris.
04-03-2010, 08:08 PM
#383
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
How would a sympathetic judge look at that (especially if he demonstrates a known illness) ?
04-04-2010, 05:06 AM
#384
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
If he lied about one thing, that woud be different, but this seems to indicate an illness and people with this illness can neither control it nor are really aware of it in their overt conciousness.
Just like an alcoholic, he may have protections employment wise, especially if he did not misrepresent the credentials required for employment or lied about his backgorund DURING the interview process and passed all required testing. Identification of an illness and successful treatment (if in fact, it does exist) may be there, of course would he WANT to continue in this profession given the ridicule he's received.
I wouldn't if I were him.
Just like an alcoholic, he may have protections employment wise, especially if he did not misrepresent the credentials required for employment or lied about his backgorund DURING the interview process and passed all required testing. Identification of an illness and successful treatment (if in fact, it does exist) may be there, of course would he WANT to continue in this profession given the ridicule he's received.
I wouldn't if I were him.
04-04-2010, 06:02 AM
#385
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Eaglefly,
What is your deal? Are you Timmy's virtual wingman?
Look--I know a ton of great guys that came from regionals...PCL, ASA, Exp Jet, Chataqua, Great Lakes, and host of others.
Know what they have in common? They aren't lying douchebags! They didn't embarass our professional organization by lying in public about qualifications they will never have. They busted their ass the hard way, were proud of what they accomplished, and stood on their own merits. I am lucky to call some of them friends, co-workers, and fellow crew members.
If you think lying is okay, and flying with psychosis is an acceptable disability, then I would suggest you--not these "mean old APC pilots"--are the one that needs a reality check.
Culling the herd is part of life, brother. We do it in all kinds of organizations. Deviate too far from the norm, and you get called out and either adjusted or removed. This cat went way, way, way out of the norm. Now his going to pay the price. That is life. Try going to work in your pajamas, or taking a leak on the jetway sometime. There are things that some people just flat out do not accept as "resonable, rational behavior". I think living in a delusional world, lying to the press with zero concern about ramifications, and then continuing to try to cover up previous lies demonstrates some very real issues--both with his intergrity and perhaps even his mental state. Your efforts to protect him, instead of eliminate him from your peer group, does not inspire the confidence of the traveling public. Your effort to be compassionate towards one at the potential expense of many just doesn't pass a solid risk/reward or common sense test.
What is your deal? Are you Timmy's virtual wingman?
Look--I know a ton of great guys that came from regionals...PCL, ASA, Exp Jet, Chataqua, Great Lakes, and host of others.
Know what they have in common? They aren't lying douchebags! They didn't embarass our professional organization by lying in public about qualifications they will never have. They busted their ass the hard way, were proud of what they accomplished, and stood on their own merits. I am lucky to call some of them friends, co-workers, and fellow crew members.
If you think lying is okay, and flying with psychosis is an acceptable disability, then I would suggest you--not these "mean old APC pilots"--are the one that needs a reality check.
Culling the herd is part of life, brother. We do it in all kinds of organizations. Deviate too far from the norm, and you get called out and either adjusted or removed. This cat went way, way, way out of the norm. Now his going to pay the price. That is life. Try going to work in your pajamas, or taking a leak on the jetway sometime. There are things that some people just flat out do not accept as "resonable, rational behavior". I think living in a delusional world, lying to the press with zero concern about ramifications, and then continuing to try to cover up previous lies demonstrates some very real issues--both with his intergrity and perhaps even his mental state. Your efforts to protect him, instead of eliminate him from your peer group, does not inspire the confidence of the traveling public. Your effort to be compassionate towards one at the potential expense of many just doesn't pass a solid risk/reward or common sense test.
04-04-2010, 06:10 AM
#386
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e
I think he will sue you for libel because you are saying he is mentally ill....
However, I included the caveat "if it does exist" on the advice of counsel.
04-04-2010, 06:17 AM
#387
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Originally Posted by Albief15
Eaglefly,
What is your deal? Are you Timmy's virtual wingman?
Look--I know a ton of great guys that came from regionals...PCL, ASA, Exp Jet, Chataqua, Great Lakes, and host of others.
Know what they have in common? They aren't lying douchebags! They didn't embarass our professional organization by lying in public about qualifications they will never have. They busted their ass the hard way, were proud of what they accomplished, and stood on their own merits. I am lucky to call some of them friends, co-workers, and fellow crew members.
If you think lying is okay, and flying with psychosis is an acceptable disability, then I would suggest you--not these "mean old APC pilots"--are the one that needs a reality check.
Culling the herd is part of life, brother. We do it in all kinds of organizations. Deviate too far from the norm, and you get called out and either adjusted or removed. This cat went way, way, way out of the norm. Now his going to pay the price. That is life. Try going to work in your pajamas, or taking a leak on the jetway sometime. There are things that some people just flat out do not accept as "resonable, rational behavior". I think living in a delusional world, lying to the press with zero concern about ramifications, and then continuing to try to cover up previous lies demonstrates some very real issues--both with his intergrity and perhaps even his mental state. Your efforts to protect him, instead of eliminate him from your peer group, does not inspire the confidence of the traveling public. Your effort to be compassionate towards one at the potential expense of many just doesn't pass a solid risk/reward or common sense test.
What is your deal? Are you Timmy's virtual wingman?
Look--I know a ton of great guys that came from regionals...PCL, ASA, Exp Jet, Chataqua, Great Lakes, and host of others.
Know what they have in common? They aren't lying douchebags! They didn't embarass our professional organization by lying in public about qualifications they will never have. They busted their ass the hard way, were proud of what they accomplished, and stood on their own merits. I am lucky to call some of them friends, co-workers, and fellow crew members.
If you think lying is okay, and flying with psychosis is an acceptable disability, then I would suggest you--not these "mean old APC pilots"--are the one that needs a reality check.
Culling the herd is part of life, brother. We do it in all kinds of organizations. Deviate too far from the norm, and you get called out and either adjusted or removed. This cat went way, way, way out of the norm. Now his going to pay the price. That is life. Try going to work in your pajamas, or taking a leak on the jetway sometime. There are things that some people just flat out do not accept as "resonable, rational behavior". I think living in a delusional world, lying to the press with zero concern about ramifications, and then continuing to try to cover up previous lies demonstrates some very real issues--both with his intergrity and perhaps even his mental state. Your efforts to protect him, instead of eliminate him from your peer group, does not inspire the confidence of the traveling public. Your effort to be compassionate towards one at the potential expense of many just doesn't pass a solid risk/reward or common sense test.
My comments were fairly short and worthy of at least consideration.........nothing more. The fact you consider my comments "protection" of him is downright laughable.
BTW, your over-emotion about my comments doesn't inspire the confidence of the traveling public. In fact, your willingness to try, convict and hang him without all the facts, doesn't inspire much of anything good either. One should also note a little "Napoleon complex" in you, as you seem to proclaim yourself the spokesman for the "travelling public", which I'll bet is far more considerate and far less judgemental then yourself.
Perhaps it's time to take it easy on the negative G's ?
04-04-2010, 08:02 AM
#388
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Albie may be a short, ugly fellow who once surrendered to a news helicopter, but I'd hardly say he has a Napolean complex.
Move along eaglefly. You're well beyond the point of speaking nonsense. Now you're just embarrasing yourself.
Move along eaglefly. You're well beyond the point of speaking nonsense. Now you're just embarrasing yourself.
04-04-2010, 08:24 AM
#389
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Originally Posted by Hobbit64
After reading some the 'Recent News' items I wonder if this will turn into:
TM vs Chuck Norris.
TM vs Chuck Norris.
04-04-2010, 08:47 AM
#390
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Originally Posted by TBoneF15
Albie may be a short, ugly fellow who once surrendered to a news helicopter, but I'd hardly say he has a Napolean complex.
Move along eaglefly. You're well beyond the point of speaking nonsense. Now you're just embarrasing yourself.
Move along eaglefly. You're well beyond the point of speaking nonsense. Now you're just embarrasing yourself.
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