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Old 08-31-2011 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
Hard to believe that anyone who went through military flight school could forget when/where. Heck, I even remember the course rules for Corpus and South Whiting.
Exactly. Military flight training is a few years of your life you don't just forget. This guy is full of it.
Old 08-31-2011 | 11:19 AM
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I've run into a couple of suspicious types myself. One guy I used to work with who is about my age (late 20's), claimed to have made it through SEAL BUD/S training (including hell week) but washed out later due to injury. I thought that this guy would be fun to talk to as I had just finished reading a couple of books about SEAL training and Navy SEALs in general. Since I had accurate information about SEALs fresh in my brain, the first question I asked him, still believing his story, was what BUD/S class he was in, and his reply was something like, "....uh....like 24B, something....I don't quite remember".

I instantly knew this guy was full of it. One of the things I learned from my reading was that BUD/S classes are numerically numbered only, no letters, and that they are chronologically ordered from class 1 back in the 1960's, to the present classes numbered somewhere in the mid 200's at the time of our conversation. I didn't call the guy out, but I lost any respect I had for him right then and there. Even if he had really washed out, I can't accept that he would have forgotten something like that.

Conversely, my 86 year old grandfather can still rattle off every airplane make and model he flew, every ship he served on, and every base he was ever stationed at without a moments hesitation! Some things you just don't forget.
Old 08-31-2011 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AZFlyer
I've run into a couple of suspicious types myself. One guy I used to work with who is about my age (late 20's), claimed to have made it through SEAL BUD/S training (including hell week) but washed out later due to injury. I thought that this guy would be fun to talk to as I had just finished reading a couple of books about SEAL training and Navy SEALs in general. Since I had accurate information about SEALs fresh in my brain, the first question I asked him, still believing his story, was what BUD/S class he was in, and his reply was something like, "....uh....like 24B, something....I don't quite remember".

I instantly knew this guy was full of it. One of the things I learned from my reading was that BUD/S classes are numerically numbered only, no letters, and that they are chronologically ordered from class 1 back in the 1960's, to the present classes numbered somewhere in the mid 200's at the time of our conversation. I didn't call the guy out, but I lost any respect I had for him right then and there. Even if he had really washed out, I can't accept that he would have forgotten something like that.

Conversely, my 86 year old grandfather can still rattle off every airplane make and model he flew, every ship he served on, and every base he was ever stationed at without a moments hesitation! Some things you just don't forget.
Friend of mine used to work at the PAO office in Coronado. One of their constant tasks was to legitimize claims from the media of guys telling them they were team members. It was something like 1 in a 100 that were legit... there are some real a-holes out there.
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
As for North or South Whiting - remembering them after so long would be quite the feat since it seems many barely learned them to begin with (meaning that I *heard* they were quite complicated)

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12 years later and I'm still looking for stickman intersection.

Had a GS employee stand in front of a group of us DCA's during training at the USCGA and say he was a B-1 aircraft commander in the 80's. I asked him where he went attended UPT and he said, "Randolph". I thought RND has trained Nav's and PIT students for years now. Can't find out when, but heard UPT at Randolph went away in the 70's.

No doubt he was a USAF officer, and if UPT did got away before his time, he was probably a B-1 WSO. That's cool enough...no need to make up claims of being a Bone pilot.
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
Heck, I even remember the course rules for Corpus...
If you get lost over the water, fly to the coast line and follow it north until you get to a 029 heading, make a left 90 and there's KNGP. I went through primary in early '85. Funny how some things stick with you.
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Originally Posted by XHooker
If you get lost over the water, fly to the coast line and follow it north until you get to a 029 heading, make a left 90 and there's KNGP. I went through primary in early '85. Funny how some things stick with you.
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Old 08-31-2011 | 06:59 PM
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You guys are much better at that stuff than I am, but I do remember:
"ITT light off within 10 secs" (and still use it today )

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Old 08-31-2011 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by XHooker
If you get lost over the water, fly to the coast line and follow it north until you get to a 029 heading, make a left 90 and there's KNGP. I went through primary in early '85. Funny how some things stick with you.
All good unless you are in the North areas We had a stud a few years back (~7-8 yrs) do someting similar to this...it was ugly.

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Don't forget the optional items...slower-lower-squawk-talk-turn off-turn away.

We had a crew bail out of a T-34 last week. Two recovered/rescued...no injuries. I am so glad I don't do that job anymore.

Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
You guys are much better at that stuff than I am, but I do remember:
"ITT light off within 10 secs" (and still use it today )

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Really? That's all you got? We can't even get a turn-climb-clean-check-determine-deliver-descend...or at least a three down and locked???
Old 08-31-2011 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyBoyd
We had a crew bail out of a T-34 last week. Two recovered/rescued...no injuries. I am so glad I don't do that job anymore.
Really? Someone actually did it??? Any idea why?
Old 08-31-2011 | 09:38 PM
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All this Navy training bollocks, and nobody's offered up any classic Tweet-isms?

No "hook, look, jiggle, wiggle, 2-1-2, review"?

How about "two lights, two tights, two fuels, no fools"?
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