Logging time and Airline Interviews
11-02-2011 | 07:57 PM
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11-04-2011 | 12:05 PM
#42
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From: 777 FO
Yeah, the AF should def do something about that. How unfair.
11-06-2011 | 04:27 PM
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From: Legacy FO
When HQ AMC's very own ORM form(s) asks how much PIC time I have ... yes, it's a big standardization problem. How is someone supposed to know their PIC time when the USAF doesn't even define it or track it?
11-07-2011 | 08:45 PM
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From: KC-135R Co
I, too, have a digital logbook that I log my military time in, and use "FAA" or "Major Airline" rules.
I have both a "PIC" column and a "Dual Given" column. If I am the instructor for a 1.0 sortie, then 1.0 goes in "PIC" and 1.0 also goes in the "Dual Given" column...because it counts for both.
If an airline asks for IP time and PIC time, and considers the time separately, it's easy to separate the time out through the wonders of Excel.
I have both a "PIC" column and a "Dual Given" column. If I am the instructor for a 1.0 sortie, then 1.0 goes in "PIC" and 1.0 also goes in the "Dual Given" column...because it counts for both.
If an airline asks for IP time and PIC time, and considers the time separately, it's easy to separate the time out through the wonders of Excel.
11-09-2011 | 03:43 AM
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From: Midfield downwind
In reference to what each is 'worth' in terms of your experience as a pilot and selling it to an airline someday, there is a Grand Canyon's difference between the two, as they live at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Dual Received is pretty much 'worthless' time so far as the airlines are concerned. You're not the PIC, not making any real decisions, and not legally 'in charge' of the aircraft.
Dual Given is the opposite, PIC and instructor time, which is exactly what the airlines are interested in when hiring future F/Os.
In terms of "logged" time, dual received goes in the "total time" column, too.
