Logging time and Airline Interviews
11-02-2011, 07:57 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
This is really a small piece to the gigantic problem the USAF has ... standardization across fleets.
However, it's the least of USAF's problems...
11-04-2011, 12:05 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e
Oh, well..doesn't matter in the grand scheme, I suppose, but when my IP time gets compared to a heavy dude who logs all IP time on every sortie simply because of his IP qual, I'll look much less 'experienced'.
11-06-2011, 04:27 PM
#43
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Originally Posted by LowSlowT2
Without re-picking the scab (too much), I don't see this as a standardization issue, really.
However, it's the least of USAF's problems...
However, it's the least of USAF's problems...
11-07-2011, 08:45 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e
I, too, have a digital logbook that I log my military time in, and use "FAA" or "Major Airline" rules.
I have both a "PIC" column and a "Dual Given" column. If I am the instructor for a 1.0 sortie, then 1.0 goes in "PIC" and 1.0 also goes in the "Dual Given" column...because it counts for both.
If an airline asks for IP time and PIC time, and considers the time separately, it's easy to separate the time out through the wonders of Excel.
I have both a "PIC" column and a "Dual Given" column. If I am the instructor for a 1.0 sortie, then 1.0 goes in "PIC" and 1.0 also goes in the "Dual Given" column...because it counts for both.
If an airline asks for IP time and PIC time, and considers the time separately, it's easy to separate the time out through the wonders of Excel.
11-09-2011, 03:43 AM
#46
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Originally Posted by flyboy2b4
Hey guys, I was just wondering what dual given vs. dual received meant in terms of logging flight time?
In reference to what each is 'worth' in terms of your experience as a pilot and selling it to an airline someday, there is a Grand Canyon's difference between the two, as they live at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Dual Received is pretty much 'worthless' time so far as the airlines are concerned. You're not the PIC, not making any real decisions, and not legally 'in charge' of the aircraft.
Dual Given is the opposite, PIC and instructor time, which is exactly what the airlines are interested in when hiring future F/Os.
In terms of "logged" time, dual received goes in the "total time" column, too.
