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Old 09-16-2014 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Gilligan13
Is AD that bad? Do most want to fly for the airlines?
Flying for the Air National Guard vs. AD gives you the choice/flexibility to do both, that's why so many here recommend it.

There's much less political BS in the squadron than on Active Duty, and the option to fly for the airlines at the same time.
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Old 09-16-2014 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
Best piece of advice I've seen on the thread.

FWIW: I flew for both; a two-year exchange with the Navy. Of my Air Force buds, roughly 1/3 stayed and made it a career; if you include the ones who went Guard or Reserve, 66%.

But I only know one guy who stayed in the Navy, active, until retirement.

And I know one guy that stayed in the Naval Reserve until retirement, and it was non-flying, for points-only. He did that because he was furloughed. When the Navy guys hit their O-5 boards, they quit, because either way, they are promoted out of the cockpit.

Both sides tend to be fiercely proud of their branch of service, and rightfully so. But the track record suggests one is more sustainable/livable than the other.

FWIW.
Every reply so far has a grain of truth, some not so much. It really comes down to what you want to do and more importantly, what airplane you want to fly. If you can perform under pressure and max out academically/during check flights. You can choose your destiny in most places (Number 1 almost always gets first choice in selection for platform or location) if you just show up and like to party, you'll get what you get. You probably have or had a poster of a particular plane on your wall that you've been drooling over since you were a toddler. If that's what you want, go do it. If you want to fill a logbook with heavy time to position yourself for an airline career 10 or more years in the future, do that. Yep, you'll get some deployments and spend some time out of the cockpit, but every AD service will have some type of staff job or service school that will put flying on hold. Just realize you can fly pointy grey jets and still do the airline gig down the line. For those poo pooing Navy, I just retired at 22 years. I only did 9 months of that out of the cockpit and did most of 3k hours in Hornets. I just got hired at AA, so you don't have to fly heavies to be able to make the move to airlines. Good luck with your decision..
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Old 09-16-2014 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Salt
You are going to get a million opinions depending on one's background and experience. There are plenty of people who want to stay in and make rank. There are also plenty who are jaded and want to get out and go to the airlines. When you are on "airlinepilotforums" you probably are going to get most of your opinions biased to the airlines. Go hit up baseops.net or airwarriors.com to help form you decision. Plenty of quality military gouge between those two sites.
Best piece of advice I've seen on the thread.

FWIW: I flew for both; a two-year exchange with the Navy. Of my Air Force buds, roughly 1/3 stayed and made it a career; if you include the ones who went Guard or Reserve, 66%.

But I only know one guy who stayed in the Navy, active, until retirement.

And I know one guy that stayed in the Naval Reserve until retirement, and it was non-flying, for points-only. He did that because he was furloughed. When the Navy guys hit their O-5 boards, they quit, because either way, they are promoted out of the cockpit.

Both sides tend to be fiercely proud of their branch of service, and rightfully so. But the track record suggests one is more sustainable/livable than the other.

FWIW.
Your right. Af air mission due to be replaced by drones and unsustainable due to need for foreign bases.
Navy just needs ocean.
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Old 09-16-2014 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JerkStore
10,000 parts flying in close formation around a oil leak.
Divide that by about 100 and you've described the A-4.

I can't believe the Bob Norris' "Navy or Air Force" hasn't been posted, yet. It's a classic, it's funny and true. I'd do it, but I'm technologically challenged (kinda like the A-4).
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Old 09-16-2014 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by XHooker
Divide that by about 100 and you've described the A-4.

I can't believe the Bob Norris' "Navy or Air Force" hasn't been posted, yet. It's a classic, it's funny and true. I'd do it, but I'm technologically challenged (kinda like the A-4).
Originally Posted by jmlaclede
I just graduated college with a degree in aviation. I have been researching the military and am trying to look at the difference between the air force and the navy. I would like to go in as an officer so will be a long commitment. My main concern is which one will I have a better chance at getting a pilot position. Some one told me that since the air force is mainly pilots its actually harder to get a flying gig then in the Navy. Just looking for feed back as to which might be a better career choice for a pilot.
If you haven't seen it yet, the letter at the link below is worth a read. Somewhat true but maybe talking about the services a few years back.
Fighter Pilot University :: Navy v Air Force Career
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Old 09-16-2014 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by XHooker
It's a classic, it's funny and true.
Classic and funny, for sure.

True... ?
- the ironing flight suits is a fallacy the Navy loves to believe.
- the "girl" in Singapore is actually a tranny.
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Old 09-17-2014 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
- the "girl" in Singapore is actually a tranny
There should be a safety brief given on this before liberty. Sadly, there isn't...
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Old 09-17-2014 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
True... ?
the ironing flight suits is a fallacy the Navy loves to believe.
Maybe an exaggeration, but scarves... really?
the "girl" in Singapore is actually a tranny.
Unfortunately, that's a distinct possibility. As they say... "you pay your money and take your chances."
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Old 09-17-2014 | 04:21 AM
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Wasn't it the AF that wanted to turn the flight suit into a uniform instead of a piece of flight equipment and together the services agree to put creases into the flight suits in the early-mid 90s?
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Old 09-17-2014 | 04:48 AM
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I was told the Navy has the best pilots. Is this true?
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