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Old 01-21-2016, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by airV View Post
I still have 6 more years before the commitment is up. I've seen the charts that show retirements peaking in the 2020's. Does anyone have any info on whether heavy hiring will continue into the 2020's? Any chance at getting in and gaining seniority in the early 2020's?
Also really interested in an answer to this, I'm in the same boat.

Additionally, to be a reserve IP at UPT I'm assuming you had to be a UPT IP during your time on AD at one point, correct?
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Old 01-22-2016, 05:07 AM
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airV and Wheelsoff -

check out this thread for future retiring/hiring -

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...umbers-11.html
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Old 01-23-2016, 11:54 AM
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First post here. I'm currently an AD navy F18 IP coming up on my MSR.
Family + deployment life is making me consider leaving the navy and wanted to see how competitive my hours and quals would be to get a job at a major. I've got a little more than two years left and can extend a bit in my current IP job until I can get out. Hours are estimated for when I'd be filling out apps.

1500+ TT (but probably not much more)
~1300 PIC Almost all F18 A-F
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I've got the ability to take another AD flying job for 2 years which would keep me current in F-18 but probably involve me deploying (not ideal). Is that pain and loss of seniority at a major worth the only ~300 more hrs? Thanks for the advice for the future.
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Old 01-23-2016, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rgrball View Post
First post here. I'm currently an AD navy F18 IP coming up on my MSR.
Family + deployment life is making me consider leaving the navy and wanted to see how competitive my hours and quals would be to get a job at a major. I've got a little more than two years left and can extend a bit in my current IP job until I can get out. Hours are estimated for when I'd be filling out apps.

1500+ TT (but probably not much more)
~1300 PIC Almost all F18 A-F
Natops Instructor
Instrument Instructor
CRM Facilitator
TQ Landing Signal Officer
Division Lead
1-5 Internal Recs from current FOs

I've got the ability to take another AD flying job for 2 years which would keep me current in F-18 but probably involve me deploying (not ideal). Is that pain and loss of seniority at a major worth the only ~300 more hrs? Thanks for the advice for the future.
Apply early and see if you get an interview so you can resign with 9 months notice and take 2 months terminal leave to shorten the timeline. I know a harrier dude who got picked up by delta with about 1850 hours (most of it being T-6B time) so you're probably in the ballpark as long as you're coming off a flying tour.
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Old 01-23-2016, 12:13 PM
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As always, "should I stay or should I go?", that is the question. It's something that only you can answer. Remember, seniority is EVERYTHING in the airline world. Yes, the first year pay hit is painful but if you can land a job at a good airline, life as you know it will exponentially improve compared to life as Uncle Sam's beaaaaahtch. Your wife and kid's may actually get to know you; imagine that! Almost every legacy/major will count fighter/single seat time differently so as long as you have an ATP so I wouldn't worry about the number of hours. Also, find a guard/reserve unit and work on getting 20 good years. Keep the AFRes/ANG as an option and they will take you even if you were a squid, as long as you're not a tool.
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Old 01-23-2016, 02:14 PM
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You should get some interest with that resume, especially if you're coming off a current flying job.

Two years of hiring is a *HUGE* difference in your airline career. HUGE. If that's the long term plan don't delay.

If you don't get hired get a regional 121 job. The time, and qualifications, you get there will make your resume that much more competitive.
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Old 01-23-2016, 03:48 PM
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C or D. Don't get caught up in a stop loss because it's gonna happen. It's just a matter of time. The AF is going to wake up sooner or later and figure out the only "fix" to losing pilots left and right is to prevent them from getting out. Their savior over the last few years is that a lot of AD folks separated to the Guard/Reserves and remained in a deployable "Total Force".
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Old 01-23-2016, 04:06 PM
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C or D. Don't get caught up in a stop loss because it's gonna happen. It's just a matter of time. The AF is going to wake up sooner or later and figure out the only "fix" to losing pilots left and right is to prevent them from getting out. Their savior over the last few years is that a lot of AD folks separated to the Guard/Reserves and remained in a deployable "Total Force".
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Old 01-24-2016, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheelsoff View Post
Also really interested in an answer to this, I'm in the same boat.

Additionally, to be a reserve IP at UPT I'm assuming you had to be a UPT IP during your time on AD at one point, correct?
I'd be surprised if that were the case. The UPT reserve units struggle to get people to move to their cesspool towns enough as it is.
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Old 01-24-2016, 03:45 AM
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Rgrball, I'd get your stuff together and start the application process. You are competitive now, and in the future (when you are able to leave) there will likely be less dudes in the stacks that have done some of the things you have done. I have almost 1700 TT and several interviews. I was looking at it from your perspective (family and future deployments) and decided to bail. Something else to look at since you have some time left is start rushing guard and reserve units where you want to live.
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