Interview timing
#1
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Interview timing
I am looking at potentially exiting the military around November 2017 (end of my current flying orders). I have a board in March 2017 that would keep me in the military if the results are good. Obviously my goal is to start training as I begin terminal leave, but that leaves eight months between board results and exiting, so I would like to put my applications in sooner rather then later.
My question is how does it look to stop the process halfway through, i.e. I start interviewing with an airline but the March results are good and I elect to stay in the military. Would that have repercussions down the line when I do in fact get out of the military and pursue the airlines? When would be a good time to start submitting applications without shooting myself in the foot?
My stats:
2600 TT
2300 PIC
NATOPs instructor
Masters
My question is how does it look to stop the process halfway through, i.e. I start interviewing with an airline but the March results are good and I elect to stay in the military. Would that have repercussions down the line when I do in fact get out of the military and pursue the airlines? When would be a good time to start submitting applications without shooting myself in the foot?
My stats:
2600 TT
2300 PIC
NATOPs instructor
Masters
#2
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With the amount of hiring projected in the next 10 years, the only downside to stopping your application/interview process halfway through would be the incredible seniority (lifetime earnings/quality of life) hit you would take by postponing your airline career.
AA, DL, SWA, UA, FedEx, UPS will be desperate for military pilots going forward, so little things that would normally scuttle prospects of being hired at a major today (like turning down a job) will matter less/none in the future.
Only you know all of your circumstances, but are you familiar with USERRA and have you checked into the Air Guard and/or AF/Naval reserves?
Start applying now.
Good luck.
AA, DL, SWA, UA, FedEx, UPS will be desperate for military pilots going forward, so little things that would normally scuttle prospects of being hired at a major today (like turning down a job) will matter less/none in the future.
Only you know all of your circumstances, but are you familiar with USERRA and have you checked into the Air Guard and/or AF/Naval reserves?
Start applying now.
Good luck.
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I am looking at potentially exiting the military around November 2017 (end of my current flying orders). I have a board in March 2017 that would keep me in the military if the results are good. Obviously my goal is to start training as I begin terminal leave, but that leaves eight months between board results and exiting, so I would like to put my applications in sooner rather then later.
My question is how does it look to stop the process halfway through, i.e. I start interviewing with an airline but the March results are good and I elect to stay in the military. Would that have repercussions down the line when I do in fact get out of the military and pursue the airlines? When would be a good time to start submitting applications without shooting myself in the foot?
My stats:
2600 TT
2300 PIC
NATOPs instructor
Masters
My question is how does it look to stop the process halfway through, i.e. I start interviewing with an airline but the March results are good and I elect to stay in the military. Would that have repercussions down the line when I do in fact get out of the military and pursue the airlines? When would be a good time to start submitting applications without shooting myself in the foot?
My stats:
2600 TT
2300 PIC
NATOPs instructor
Masters
#4
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Is this a trick or treat board? Select you stay, non select you're out? Will you be involuntarily separated or are you choosing to leave if the board turns you down? Need more details of your options or what you're looking to accomplish.
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I have a similar question. In short, I am in a family situation where it is not possible for me to get out of the military without a stable job lined up. I'll be shelling out thousands a month for medical costs for a family member without Tricare, so going to a regional for a while isn't really acceptable. Pretty sure the wife would divorce me if I went that route. So, I guess I'm looking for advice for when to put my availability date with the airlines? I know everyone wants a perfect transition but in my case without it I'll be forced to stay in for the insurance...BUT my wife and I are done with this social experiment that we call the AF and want out now. I should have 60 days of leave saved up so with that said how far can I back up my availability to hopefully get an interview and get hired before I get out? I fear that it might not be smart to back it up too much and then potentially **** off an airline. I know and understand that very deserving dudes have waited years for a call, so I know I probably sound like a douche but I have to take care of the medical problems in my family. Stats:
~2,200 total time
~2,000 Turbine
~1,750 TPIC
~850 Instructor
Current pointy nose IP and hopefully SEFE soon
Additional IP time in trainers
Safety qual'd
BA GPA 3.73 but I took 6 years to get there because I entered ROTC late
MBA GPA 3.89
Consistent volunteer work for as far back as you want to look
Fluent in another language and working knowledge in 2x other languages
I appreciate any advice or spears!
~2,200 total time
~2,000 Turbine
~1,750 TPIC
~850 Instructor
Current pointy nose IP and hopefully SEFE soon
Additional IP time in trainers
Safety qual'd
BA GPA 3.73 but I took 6 years to get there because I entered ROTC late
MBA GPA 3.89
Consistent volunteer work for as far back as you want to look
Fluent in another language and working knowledge in 2x other languages
I appreciate any advice or spears!
#6
I have a similar question. In short, I am in a family situation where it is not possible for me to get out of the military without a stable job lined up. I'll be shelling out thousands a month for medical costs for a family member without Tricare, so going to a regional for a while isn't really acceptable. Pretty sure the wife would divorce me if I went that route. So, I guess I'm looking for advice for when to put my availability date with the airlines? I know everyone wants a perfect transition but in my case without it I'll be forced to stay in for the insurance...BUT my wife and I are done with this social experiment that we call the AF and want out now. I should have 60 days of leave saved up so with that said how far can I back up my availability to hopefully get an interview and get hired before I get out? I fear that it might not be smart to back it up too much and then potentially **** off an airline. I know and understand that very deserving dudes have waited years for a call, so I know I probably sound like a douche but I have to take care of the medical problems in my family. Stats:
~2,200 total time
~2,000 Turbine
~1,750 TPIC
~850 Instructor
Current pointy nose IP and hopefully SEFE soon
Additional IP time in trainers
Safety qual'd
BA GPA 3.73 but I took 6 years to get there because I entered ROTC late
MBA GPA 3.89
Consistent volunteer work for as far back as you want to look
Fluent in another language and working knowledge in 2x other languages
I appreciate any advice or spears!
~2,200 total time
~2,000 Turbine
~1,750 TPIC
~850 Instructor
Current pointy nose IP and hopefully SEFE soon
Additional IP time in trainers
Safety qual'd
BA GPA 3.73 but I took 6 years to get there because I entered ROTC late
MBA GPA 3.89
Consistent volunteer work for as far back as you want to look
Fluent in another language and working knowledge in 2x other languages
I appreciate any advice or spears!
What's your flying background -- I'm assuming AETC tour in there somewhere. PM specifics if you want advice.
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I will be voluntarily separating at 16 years in. I plan on staying on with the reserves, most likely in a non flying job since I will be too senior.
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Ret AD, back to AA
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There are of course some considerations, such as--is it even possible to stay flying (and therefore current) up until the 20 year point, and is there a good reserve option now that could at least get you to 20 reserve years while establishing a seniority number somewhere given strong hiring over the next 4 years.
It's a tough call...but don't underestimate the AD retirement!
#10
Not to divert attention away from the OP but I didn't want to start a whole new thread about the same subject. My commitment is up in Nov '17 and my DEROS is May '17. I'll be able to 7-day opt and would then likely extend my DEROS to Nov and get out. I'll be applying for Palace Chase but IAW the AFI I can't apply until 6 months prior to my DEROS which is this Nov. What I hope will happen is that my PC application will be approved and I'll be able to get out 6 months early at my DEROS next May. What should I put as my availability? March (DEROS minus 60 days of terminal) or September (commitment minus 60 days of terminal)?
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