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Par18 12-24-2015 01:53 PM

I was just passed over as well and am looking to start applying at both regionals and majors. I haven't flown a military aircraft in 3 years but I do own my own plane so hopefully those hours will help me meet the currency requirements even though they don't look as good. I don't have nearly the hours you do but it is what it is. I'm looking to get my foot in the door at a Marine reserve unit or Navy and will most likely have to go the Regional route first. I know several are hiring without interviews so at least that will me in my favor but time will tell what that is really worth. It will be an interesting year and a half as I try to pave a new path.

hindsight2020 12-24-2015 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Par18 (Post 2034105)
I was just passed over as well and am looking to start applying at both regionals and majors. I haven't flown a military aircraft in 3 years but I do own my own plane so hopefully those hours will help me meet the currency requirements even though they don't look as good. I don't have nearly the hours you do but it is what it is. I'm looking to get my foot in the door at a Marine reserve unit or Navy and will most likely have to go the Regional route first. I know several are hiring without interviews so at least that will me in my favor but time will tell what that is really worth. It will be an interesting year and a half as I try to pave a new path.

I own my own piston aircraft as well and my understanding is that it technically will, but the unspoken minimum is based on paid turbine time. Basically they want you current on turbine ops and willing to work. Flying your own piston won't satisfy either angle behind that spirit of intent. It gets worse as your last turbine flight date gets further in the past, same for last paid flying gig.

BL, you gotta get some recent turbine if you're that sold on making it to a major. BTW what do you own. Piper arrow ii owner here. Id love a piper jetprop but until then I love flying on my own time!!!

Par18 12-24-2015 03:55 PM

Yep, that's about what I hear. I am planning to get my twin stuff knocked out over the next couple of months as well. Based on what I am seeing and the stories I hear, the regionals are def looking to hire. The pay will suck but I can make it for a year or 2 just fine on that pay.

My plane is a 1963 Mooney M20c and going though its first annual with since I purchased it. It will be good for a quick sale if nothing else in the short term. Where do you keep it? I'm in Virginia Beach.




Originally Posted by hindsight2020 (Post 2034139)
I own my own piston aircraft as well and my understanding is that it technically will, but the unspoken minimum is based on paid turbine time. Basically they want you current on turbine ops and willing to work. Flying your own piston won't satisfy either angle behind that spirit of intent. It gets worse as your last turbine flight date gets further in the past, same for last paid flying gig.

BL, you gotta get some recent turbine if you're that sold on making it to a major. BTW what do you own. Piper arrow ii owner here. Id love a piper jetprop but until then I love flying on my own time!!!


rekatron 12-24-2015 04:33 PM

Has anyone else been in this once passed over category, and was able to get Palace Chased out before hitting that second board? Or, is it even possible to PC if you do get selected for promotion? I've got 2 years left on my ADSC, and I'm eager to GTFO early if I can.

I've heard the applications require a unit already intent on hiring them, though.

FLY6584 12-24-2015 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by Par18 (Post 2034161)
Yep, that's about what I hear. I am planning to get my twin stuff knocked out over the next couple of months as well. Based on what I am seeing and the stories I hear, the regionals are def looking to hire. The pay will suck but I can make it for a year or 2 just fine on that pay.

My plane is a 1963 Mooney M20c and going though its first annual with since I purchased it. It will be good for a quick sale if nothing else in the short term. Where do you keep it? I'm in Virginia Beach.

Do you have 1500hrs and a pulse? If so, you can have any regional job you want.

With that said, also look into the 121 ACMI carriers. I got hired at a 121 MD-11 carrier with 1900hrs TT which paid twice what the regionals paid and I hung out there for 8 months and saw the world until Southwest called.

Gilligan13 12-24-2015 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by 2loud (Post 2032310)
Different strokes for different folks, pal. Over $1 million in earnings considered lame? If you are lucky enough sit in my cockpit, I'll let you jerk my gear.:rolleyes:
Hey btw, were you my ** sq cc because this was exactly what he said during my exit interview? Who's laughing now?

$1 million in earnings compared to what?

Par18 12-25-2015 07:22 AM

Unfortunately I only have mins to get my restricted ATP. However, that along with a pulse should enough for me to get my foot in the door at a regional. I am also looking into corporate as well as I have some close friends who work in that industry. In the long run though, I think the majors are a much better deal.


Originally Posted by FLY6584 (Post 2034183)
Do you have 1500hrs and a pulse? If so, you can have any regional job you want.

With that said, also look into the 121 ACMI carriers. I got hired at a 121 MD-11 carrier with 1900hrs TT which paid twice what the regionals paid and I hung out there for 8 months and saw the world until Southwest called.


PittsDriver 12-26-2015 10:32 AM

Not sure if it has been mentioned here but if you are twice deferred AND offered continuation and elect to separate then you are not entitled to separation pay. For that reason I hope you are not offered continuation but IIRC most 11 AFSCs have been offered continuation for O-3s recently. Try to palace chase before the second board convienes, time is not on your side to do so however. Getting hired by the guard or reserves as a twice deferred O-3 can be a tall order, once deferred is much easier.

2loud 12-26-2015 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Gilligan13 (Post 2034232)
$1 million in earnings compared to what?

Doing 20 and getting out.

hindsight2020 12-26-2015 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Par18 (Post 2034161)
Yep, that's about what I hear. I am planning to get my twin stuff knocked out over the next couple of months as well. Based on what I am seeing and the stories I hear, the regionals are def looking to hire. The pay will suck but I can make it for a year or 2 just fine on that pay.

My plane is a 1963 Mooney M20c and going though its first annual with since I purchased it. It will be good for a quick sale if nothing else in the short term. Where do you keep it? I'm in Virginia Beach.

I got mine in west Texas where I'm currently stationed. We absolutely hate the mexican border but the plan is to get the hell out of here in two and a half years once the wife is done with nursing school. I looked at Mooneys but couldn't stand the seating position. Otherwise they're the most efficient four banger solution out there outside experimentals. Short body Mooney's should be cheap to keep through income dips. Good luck!


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