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Old 04-09-2017, 10:54 AM   #1
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Tried to search but couldn't find the answer. If you upgrade to captain do you go back down to first year, or do you keep your time in the company?
For example, an FO upgrades to captain at 5 years, would they go to the 5 year captain pay or back down to 1?
If they stay at 5, when would you ever actually be a first year captain?
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Old 04-09-2017, 11:00 AM   #2
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5 year captains pay, direct entry captain or upgrade within a year.

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Old 04-09-2017, 11:38 AM   #3
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Haha, of course the related topics listed someone asking the exact same question this time, but I really appreciate it anyways.
So pay stays up, but I assume you're taking a hit on seniority when you bid?
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With the exception of perhaps an odd startup, all published payscales for US Airlines are years with the company (not years in seat) - so like Pilot said, if you upgrade after 5 years you will get 5 year captain pay. The published "year 1 Captain" number is generally meaningless because nobody upgrades in their first year (with extremely rare exceptions, of course).

But, yes, you take a hit in your bidding power once you upgrade since you are now a junior Captain rather than a senior First Officer. Some guys will put off taking a Captain upgrade for a while to allow more junior people to move into the left seat first - thus they will have a bit more bidding power once they finally do take the upgrade (essentially moving in "above" the more junior folks that took the upgrade sooner).

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Old 04-20-2017, 10:09 AM   #5
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Alone the same lines, in terms of seniority, are you xx of xx,xxx in seniority with the company or does that change depending on the aircraft/seat you occupy?

For example, does your seniority # change when you go from a 717 to a 777 or is it really just your buying power that changes?


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