FLYLOW22

And yet we’re sold out for the rest of the year next month.

It’s a hell of an accomplishment for a “middle of the road, quantity product”.

Quantity isn’t hurting SWA by the way.

They’re getting ready to completely engulf the West coast. I’d set my sights on defending my turf I worked for a carrier that DID have real competitive concerns.

Forward looking is he only way to go through life. Not the rear view, at your “ex girlfriends” house.

You made your decisions fellas.

Good luck.

PS. NetJets isn’t for everyone. And thank goodness. I need to get to and from my base so I can work and when I get back, UPS delivers my packages on time.


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Jetlife

* why do people have to continue to explain to you, very common sense, basic things that you just don’t get??

Just because fleets are sold out doesn’t mean they are luxury. NOBODY is saying the brand is hurting, or that demand isn’t there.

You know who else is doing great in the fractional/jet card space? EVERYONE. Congrats to a NetJets for doing well under a record economy!!! How ever did they manage to pull that off?!

Just because NetJets hasn’t had a fatal accident doesn’t mean they are safe. Your complete inability to look at anything more than one dimensionally is honestly at this point, extremely sad. You’re too old to think this simply.

Stop making claims like “NetJets is safer now than it was years ago” because the data doesn’t support that claim. If anything, the ASAPs, FOQA data, and fatigue reports indicate an increase in risk, not a decrease. At some point dude, you have got to stop blowing sunshine up your own butt and start looking at things realistically.

***unbelieveable stupid statement that triggered an equal response***

FLYLOW22

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Please counter some of the points I’ve brought back up logically and stop being emotional. It weakens your argument.

You made a decision to leave NetJets; a decision many here applaude not only for you but for them not having to fly with you anymore.

I feel bad for you ALPA brothers at *** unless you grow up at some point and realize it’s a very small industry. It’s a business that will turn at some point and when it does, you had better of picked the right race horse.

Instead of piling up on your former fellow pilots at NetJets, I’d work hard to get pilots to come to A**. even though SWA is coming for you.

14,000 pilots there by 2023 at SWA. They want the west coast.

As long as someone gets me to work, I’m ok with whoever it is. I’d even enjoy running into you.

Thank you in advance.

Again, try and debate the facts rather than continually going emotional with your argument losing the audience.

We all wish you good luck and we’re happy you’re doing what you enjoy.

GeeWizDriver

I always look forward. Just not through rose-colored glasses like you do. I prefer to live in Realville.

If we really are “sold out” through the end of next week, next month, or next year, it only adds to the exact point jetlife made: we’re a QUANTITY operator, not a LUXURY operator.

CA1900

Come on now. The system now flags a crew when they're potentially fatigued -- then completely disregards it and piles the trips on them until they call fatigued.

There were many things I liked about Netjets, but the absolute disregard for my body clock and willful ignorance about circadian rhythms were absolutely destroying my quality of life.

Using the fatigue call as the primary means of stopping insane scheduling is like depending on the guardrail to keep your car on the road. Both are meant as a last resort, but scheduling just doesn't seem to understand that.

Jetlife

Yea, they spend all that money in fatigue mitigation software only to not use it. Who knew that a computer couldn’t optimize the max duty 2500 different human beings could do, every single day effectively. The narrative needs to be fixed. Management always looks at it from the max they can get out of the pilots. No consideration to QOL at all. Management could set the benchmark on how the pilot group is treated on the road but why do that when most will just fly tired, exhausted and unsafe, and a large portion of pilots have never fatigued. Those are more NJASAP facts that FLYLOW22 will ignore...

I love the guardrail analogy, it’s spot on. I think management has too much ammo to support their practices. FLYLOW22 is an extender, as are a host of other pilots. I forgot the number of pilots that have never fatigued but it’s staggering. You throw rollers on the car and it can ride the guardrail all day everyday.

tm602

I could not have put it better myself.

FLYLOW22

Wrong again...

I’ve received calls on occasion regarding the software flagging my duty day for fatigue.

The system works and is being used. Nobody ever claimed the software was 100%. A professional pilot needs to be up front and real regarding fatigue regardless. Ie. How would the software know you got a room next to the Salazar Family Reunion at the hotel or a fire alarm went off at 3am? It wouldn’t.

In fact, NetJets now has more fatigue mitigation procedure in place that YOUR airline. What would happen if you called fatigue while out of base on an overnight?

Try it. Tell us.

You say that doesn’t happen but like most things you profess to know volumes about, you cannot even fond the book in the library brother.

You’re not even here anymore but claim to be the resident expert.




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KTM Rider

Last count June 15th, 2440 pilots on property and shrinking. FlyLow needs to up his up his sales pitch. 10 to 12 pilots leaving NetJets per month on avg.

Macjet

You guys realize that you've got a better chance of getting Obama to admit he was born in Kenya than FlyLow22 not drowning in NJA Kool-Aid don't you? This thread needs to die. ASAP.