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Old 01-21-2019 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MWilliams
If you fly more than 12.1 hours per tour you will get an extra $118/hr.

If you fly back side of the clock you get paid an extra $50/hr.

If you are on duty between 2300-0759 you get paid an extra $50/ hr.

If you have reached the 10 hour of duty point and they choose to sit on airport appreciation, you get paid $50/hour.

1/3 of the above pay is put into you 401k as a company contribution. (It doesn’t count against your max yearly contribution) The other 2/3 go into your paycheck. Some fleets do better than others. I’m in the 350 and over the first two paychecks I have averaged and extra $1500.

Is it good or bad, I can’t tell you yet. Check back in a year.

BUT, as usual, there are exclusions and "you only get the $ if..." involved.
Also, if you are flight planned at 1:20 and it takes 2 hours to do the flight, you get paid 1:20, not 2:00. I'm seeing more and more flights out of airports like SFO, LAX etc getting filed without SIDs and STARs now....magic?
It's only been a month and I'm already tired of hearing things like "why don't we write that up later?" and "if it weren't for the $118 an hour, I probably wouldn't go".
I would have been happier if the union just kept the same money we already make and made real scheduling limits.
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Old 01-21-2019 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tm602
BUT, as usual, there are exclusions and "you only get the $ if..." involved.

Also, if you are flight planned at 1:20 and it takes 2 hours to do the flight, you get paid 1:20, not 2:00. I'm seeing more and more flights out of airports like SFO, LAX etc getting filed without SIDs and STARs now....magic?

It's only been a month and I'm already tired of hearing things like "why don't we write that up later?" and "if it weren't for the $118 an hour, I probably wouldn't go".

I would have been happier if the union just kept the same money we already make and made real scheduling limits.


Well. They do have a business to run. They’re relying on the “if” which generates more business and when that happens, it goes into your pockets. Nothing nefarious on their part.
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Old 01-21-2019 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Learflyer
Nothing nefarious on their part.
Hilarious...

This was a power play to end fatigue calls, period. The pilot group got peanuts off the floor in the grand scheme. The company saves more money on pressuring pilots to fly tired, and to pay the pilot group some peanuts instead of sell offs, orchestrating recoveries, or flat out missing flights.
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Old 01-21-2019 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tm602
BUT, as usual, there are exclusions and "you only get the $ if..." involved.
Also, if you are flight planned at 1:20 and it takes 2 hours to do the flight, you get paid 1:20, not 2:00. I'm seeing more and more flights out of airports like SFO, LAX etc getting filed without SIDs and STARs now....magic?
It's only been a month and I'm already tired of hearing things like "why don't we write that up later?" and "if it weren't for the $118 an hour, I probably wouldn't go".
I would have been happier if the union just kept the same money we already make and made real scheduling limits.
That really sucks to hear. But is totally expected given the IBI.
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Old 01-21-2019 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by OhSnapAF
Hilarious...

This was a power play to end fatigue calls, period. The pilot group got peanuts off the floor in the grand scheme. The company saves more money on pressuring pilots to fly tired, and to pay the pilot group some peanuts instead of sell offs, orchestrating recoveries, or flat out missing flights.
Exactamundo
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Old 01-21-2019 | 07:19 PM
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So far I'm pretty happy with my decision to vote yes. I've only completed two tours since the contract passed and have made the equivalent of between four and five extended days of pay from the FDP provisions, for work that I was doing anyway.
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Old 01-22-2019 | 02:22 AM
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Same here , more money, same work, we’re still fatiguing when necessary, it’s a win, win, but please we can’t be positive on a Netjets thread it isn’t allowed LOL 😆
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Old 01-22-2019 | 04:13 AM
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In my two tours since ratification (13 duty days), I've enjoyed an EIGHT HOUR show-go, given up a perfectly good airplane mid-tour in order to experience middle seat, two-leg economy hell all the way across the country (had to call a poo-bah to unwind the hour limo ride to East Nowhere, USA scheduled AFTER the airline....on Christmas Eve....at 11 PM), had 4 12+ hour duty days, 3 minimum rest overnights, a limo ride and an RJ airline scheduled AFTER an 8 hour, two-leg duty day through moderate turbulence with 40 knot winds at both destinations (thankfully, the airline cancelled because of endless delays), remarkable stupidity from "Strategic Operations" too numerous to recount, sat more airport TNTV and hot spare than the last three months combined, and made a whopping total of $800 in FDP.

Yea, real QOL improvements here at good 'ole NutJets.

But hey, it's $800 I didn't have before, right?

I didn't vote yes. Didn't vote no. On purpose.

Now wishing I had voted NO.
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Old 01-22-2019 | 04:22 AM
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What happens when one pilot fatigues and the other says let’s keep going? Gonna be some fist fights when one sees giving up thousands.
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Old 01-22-2019 | 09:20 AM
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Nahhh , my partner fatigued this week ,mid tour , It was ok , it’s no stress , if he’s tired he’s tired , and vice verse for me , I don’t see it being a problem gong forward.
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