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Originally Posted by Tippy
(Post 3463777)
Terrible idea and not necessary. We already have CVRs and FDRs to watch us. We are operating machines not dealing with the criminal public. There's already plenty of tools to keep and eye on us, A body cam would look stupid next to a Jacket and TIe.
Originally Posted by ZebraSpots
(Post 3463712)
Don’t need them.
Dr. Baehr already placed monitoring capsules in us with the prostate exams back in the day. They double serve as a mini taser to get early showtimes moving. Seriously though… worst idea ever. Body cams. No way. |
Originally Posted by aeroengineer
(Post 3463798)
Funny. Tracker along with the "fearsome finger of fate" Sure FDRs and CVRs are there but are typically useful after a mishap. Cameras monitor everything nowfrom bank tellers to equipment operators all the time in our world. I'm certainly not advocating for lav cameras. Riddle me this. If you say it's the worst idea ever then sure let's discuss why. We're all about safety whether enhanced medicals or more realistic sims or differing age limits for that matter. For the most part these are only snapshots that may or may not reveal an issue. Those who hold a security clearance are subject to continuous credit monitoring now and not just every 5 or 10 years. Cameras don't discriminate that's for sure. Actually, think of how many jobs at an airport are under video surveillance 24/7. Why should the flight deck be any different?
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Originally Posted by ZebraSpots
(Post 3463712)
Don’t need them.
Dr. Baehr already placed monitoring capsules in us with the prostate exams back in the day. They double serve as a mini taser to get early showtimes moving. Seriously though… worst idea ever. Body cams. No way. |
Originally Posted by aeroengineer
(Post 3463519)
I mentioned this on another thread related to the 121 world. Serious question. Why not put police style body cameras on the crew? Reviewable by the FAA and management for performance or competency degradation. We have no issues putting them on law enforcement for accountability. Pilots arguably carry as much responsibility as law enforcement with regards to the public. No he said she said sts.
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
(Post 3463827)
The planes already tattle via FOQA data.
If any entity ever pushes for cameras, I see it being the insurance companies. If an operator is given enough of a discount on insurance, they might go along. |
Pilot Unions have made it clear they wont tolerate cameras in the cockpit. I think they've even implied the cameras wouldn't be very reliable as the circuit breakers would keep popping. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by AirBear
(Post 3464060)
Pilot Unions have made it clear they wont tolerate cameras in the cockpit. I think they've even implied the cameras wouldn't be very reliable as the circuit breakers would keep popping. :rolleyes:
On a side note the SCOTUS muddied the waters on the authority of government agencies to make rules outside specific instructions from Congress so there is that. |
Originally Posted by aeroengineer
(Post 3464046)
Certainly glad this is available. I was looking at FAA Advisory Circular 120-82 and if I read it right it specifically requires de-identification of the data, so it doesn't identify a certain flight/crew/time etc.
If any entity ever pushes for cameras, I see it being the insurance companies. If an operator is given enough of a discount on insurance, they might go along. |
A body camera? Looking at what, my yoke clip for 4 hours?
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Originally Posted by aeroengineer
(Post 3463798)
Funny. Tracker along with the "fearsome finger of fate" Sure FDRs and CVRs are there but are typically useful after a mishap. Cameras monitor everything nowfrom bank tellers to equipment operators all the time in our world. I'm certainly not advocating for lav cameras. Riddle me this. If you say it's the worst idea ever then sure let's discuss why. We're all about safety whether enhanced medicals or more realistic sims or differing age limits for that matter. For the most part these are only snapshots that may or may not reveal an issue. Those who hold a security clearance are subject to continuous credit monitoring now and not just every 5 or 10 years. Cameras don't discriminate that's for sure. Actually, think of how many jobs at an airport are under video surveillance 24/7. Why should the flight deck be any different?
You can star in your own Truman Show voyeur special. It’ll be fun. |
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