And then there’s CMH
11-06-2022 | 06:01 PM
#31
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Not really. My experience with 121 training is that all callouts are to read back verbatim. Not a busting item but certainly a debrief. As irritating as it is, If the check airman didn't call out mistakes they wouldn't be doing their jobs. And before you go there, yes, I have 2 check airman letters on my resume.
Just curious, is there anything positive about NetJets? It seeks that nothing is off limits for you. Now even the check airman are "downright silly" in your irrelevant opinion. Its getting old dude. FFS, let it go and move on with your life.
Just curious, is there anything positive about NetJets? It seeks that nothing is off limits for you. Now even the check airman are "downright silly" in your irrelevant opinion. Its getting old dude. FFS, let it go and move on with your life.
11-07-2022 | 02:13 AM
#32
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Its annoying but it's the job we signed up for. If an actor goes off script he'll get yelled at by the director. "Set thrust" vs "thrust set" for example. One is a command, the other is a statement. Even though the words are the same, just in a different order. It can lead to ambiguity. Then there's primacy. Learn and practice it the correct way from the get go and becomes second nature.
For most people this is standard protocol to be expected by any professional training organization, but if you're a bitter, disgruntled ex employee, (MinRest) it's just another excuse to bash your former employer.
11-07-2022 | 03:47 AM
#33
Mmmm wine
Joined: Feb 2020
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From: The Jet
Could be because the flap handle is labeled "FLAP" instead of "FLAPS."
Its annoying but it's the job we signed up for. If an actor goes off script he'll get yelled at by the director. "Set thrust" vs "thrust set" for example. One is a command, the other is a statement. Even though the words are the same, just in a different order. It can lead to ambiguity. Then there's primacy. Learn and practice it the correct way from the get go and becomes second nature.
For most people this is standard protocol to be expected by any professional training organization, but if you're a bitter, disgruntled ex employee, (MinRest) it's just another excuse to bash your former employer.
Its annoying but it's the job we signed up for. If an actor goes off script he'll get yelled at by the director. "Set thrust" vs "thrust set" for example. One is a command, the other is a statement. Even though the words are the same, just in a different order. It can lead to ambiguity. Then there's primacy. Learn and practice it the correct way from the get go and becomes second nature.
For most people this is standard protocol to be expected by any professional training organization, but if you're a bitter, disgruntled ex employee, (MinRest) it's just another excuse to bash your former employer.
11-07-2022 | 03:50 AM
#34
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Not really. Just trying to separate fact from fiction, and expose the trolls who don't work here, yet still feel the need to constantly post on the forum.
11-07-2022 | 03:57 AM
#35
Mmmm wine
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From: The Jet
That is absolutely the norm during training. That is what new hire training is for. New hire training at NJA was pretty much on par with new hire training at the airlines. Initial is where you get students squared away with things like flap versus flaps, or checked versus checks. Line checks were where the differences were seen, and it wasn't all line checks but I was a part of some pretty weird line checks at NJA. Had a line check from VNY to OAK that wrapped up a 13 hour day, and the captain got an almost 45 min debrief on the line check which was really an uneventful flight. I have never seen anything like that on a line check...
11-07-2022 | 03:58 AM
#36
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From: The Jet
11-07-2022 | 06:19 AM
#37
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That is absolutely the norm during training. That is what new hire training is for. New hire training at NJA was pretty much on par with new hire training at the airlines. Initial is where you get students squared away with things like flap versus flaps, or checked versus checks. Line checks were where the differences were seen, and it wasn't all line checks but I was a part of some pretty weird line checks at NJA. Had a line check from VNY to OAK that wrapped up a 13 hour day, and the captain got an almost 45 min debrief on the line check which was really an uneventful flight. I have never seen anything like that on a line check...
11-07-2022 | 06:41 AM
#38
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I’m kinda curious as to where you worked before NJA and if you still go on those threads too.
You said that it is “just a job and not WHO you are.” I think the emphasis should be on YOU not who. Maybe you can accept that everyone doesn’t want or need the same job as you and then you might see a little less push back on here.
11-07-2022 | 08:50 AM
#39
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Not all losses are losses. Some are gains.
11-07-2022 | 08:55 AM
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