It seems like a minor thing, but as an FO with one year under my belt, the reaction of CA’s when CMH shows up on the brief is a real flippin’ bummer.

Without fail, CA’s get very paranoid when we are going to CMH and if we are ferrying to CMH with nothing after it, forget about it. CA’s go into a full on depression. This is what new FO’s see. So, now I am paranoid every time CMH is on the brief.

I get it. This is apparently how EJA lures you into HQ to administer disciplinary action, but man, watching captains go through the stages of grief every time CMH shows up can be a real drag. It’s pins and needles until we are cleared for takeoff out of there. Some CA’s don’t even like being within 100NM of CMH. Somehow the boogeyman is gonna reach out and grab us. It’s no way to live.

Anyway… Rant complete. We now return to our originally scheduled program…

 

You're not wrong. And neither are they. I don't want to be within 1000 miles of CMH let alone 100. It's one of the most dysfunctional places in the aviation world.

 

I feel the same way with LAS, MIV, BTG…. Only because I think they will take the airplane away and sell it for parts 🤣

 

If you do nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about. NJA CAs are some of the most unnecessarily paranoid pilot groups I have ever seen. I welcomed CMH layovers as I love the food there a lot.

 

I’ll see your CMH and raise you an FAA. My current rotation started with an airline to CMH for an “FAA Flyout” in the simulator. WHAT have I done…OMG? Turns out it was just part of the process to get next year’s AQP approved by the FAA. We ran one LOE scenario in the sim while the fleet training director tried different malfunctions to see what they could and couldn’t effectively use. The FAA wasn’t even there. Very low key. Plus, ended up getting 3.3 hours FDP for less than 2.0 in the sim.

 

Meanwhile, FAA reps are in the simulator ALL the time in the training centers evaluating not only the AQP program but the new instructors that FSI is hiring. And not just in CMH. FSIs in Tampa, Orlando, San Antonio and elsewhere are spooling up NetJets training and need evaluation as well. That's never very fun.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....

 

There's a reason the Sovereign fleet is known as the tool box.

 

I did my first AQP last May in CMH. Sim one included a Fed to observe our instructor. Real nice guy who did not interfere in our session at all, and posed no threat to any of us. The only ones who should feel threatened are either not prepared or crappy pilots/instructors to begin with. Besides, they are evaluating the program more than the crews.

 

The FAA isn't ever evaluating crews during training. They are either evaluating the instructor or observing the program. We have the FAA in the simulators all the time but they are either evaluating instructors (an FAA observation is required every 12 months for instructors), renewing certifications for simulators and other training devices, or observing a particular element of training (AQP, PC, RLOFT, differences training etc.). The FAA can't fail or pass your training event.

 

LOLOL!

If management wanted a pilot in CMH for discipline, it wouldn’t be via flying a QS tail.

It would be a very deliberate process with the Union involved, a briefing to travel to CMH and there would have been a request for documentation in writing.

It’s not an iffy thing.

What did your Captain do to feel so guilty. LOLOL!!